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[rebel-builders] Rebel - Fus-5 Question

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Bob Patterson

[rebel-builders] Rebel - Fus-5 Question

Post by Bob Patterson » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:36 pm

Hi Richard !

I just checked out a couple of Rebels with spring gear - the nuts
are indeed forward. I suspect the reason might be that the forward
FUS-5's have a large chunk of the end cut off to fit the taper of the
front FUS-70's (which you should have, to replace the old FUS-10's,
if you still have those). Cutting the angle might leave you with
half-holes left ....

You should have a good read through the archives, and study
the photos of spring gear fixes .... If you do the machined solid
inserts into the FUS-5's, then you won't be using the larger
holes too often anyway. If you can cut the front angles, and
still have the holes with proper edge distance, then it likely
won't matter whether they are front or back ...

Also, there are factory Service Bulletins for Spring Gear Mods -
check under the Elite Tech Support pages ...

--
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bobp@prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
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-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 05 October 2009 02:55, Richard E. Swan wrote:
Thanks for the response Mr. Patterson.
I have the spring gear, on a project that hasn't flown yet. In studying
the plans to get an idea of what to order for the new skins, and how to go
about it, I just happened to see that my plans called for drilling out the
ends of the rear tubes to install the three bolts (each side) that fasten
both forward and rear tube with their respective upright in the cage
assembly. When I looked at what I have on hand with the project, I noticed
that both forward tube ends have been drilled out for the three bolt that
orient with the nut to the rear.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <bobp@prosumers.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel - Fuse 5 Question
Hi Richard !

I'm not sure what the problem is, if yours is already correct ...
just leave it.

If you have the bungee gear, I dont think it will matter much,
because somewhere in there, they even allowed the FUS-5's to
be cut in half lengthwise .... not that many do that anymore ...

If you have the spring gear, then there are a whole lot of other
considerations ....

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bobp@prosumers.ca

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-------------------------------orig.-------------------------

On Monday 05 October 2009 02:09, Richard E. Swan wrote:
Rebel builders/flyers:

I'm slowly rebuilding an older Rebel project (have removed all belly
skins
below the cabin because of corrosion), and I have a couple of questions
on
the forward Fuse #5 item.
Obviously I'd like to not have to drill out the several rivets on top
of the forward tube (fastening the forward cabin floor down), plus not
have to replace the forward tube.

If I do need to drill out the rivets and replace the forward Fuse #5,
is this tube 6061 or 6063?

thanks for any help!

Richard
Conway, Arkansas



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Wayne G. O'Shea

[rebel-builders] Rebel - Fus-5 Question

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:36 pm

If I had a Rebel's cabin floor completely open.... the only mod I would be
considering to the existing spring gear would be getting rid of it and
installing the bungee style gear.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <bobp@prosumers.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel - Fus-5 Question

Hi Richard !

I just checked out a couple of Rebels with spring gear - the nuts
are indeed forward. I suspect the reason might be that the forward
FUS-5's have a large chunk of the end cut off to fit the taper of the
front FUS-70's (which you should have, to replace the old FUS-10's,
if you still have those). Cutting the angle might leave you with
half-holes left ....

You should have a good read through the archives, and study
the photos of spring gear fixes .... If you do the machined solid
inserts into the FUS-5's, then you won't be using the larger
holes too often anyway. If you can cut the front angles, and
still have the holes with proper edge distance, then it likely
won't matter whether they are front or back ...

Also, there are factory Service Bulletins for Spring Gear Mods -
check under the Elite Tech Support pages ...

--
......bobp
bobp@prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.ordermygift.com

Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender
and do not necessarily reflect the views of any other entities or persons.
Any action taken as a result of the contents of this email is totally the
responsibility of the reader.

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 05 October 2009 02:55, Richard E. Swan wrote:
Thanks for the response Mr. Patterson.
I have the spring gear, on a project that hasn't flown yet. In studying
the plans to get an idea of what to order for the new skins, and how to
go
about it, I just happened to see that my plans called for drilling out
the
ends of the rear tubes to install the three bolts (each side) that fasten
both forward and rear tube with their respective upright in the cage
assembly. When I looked at what I have on hand with the project, I
noticed
that both forward tube ends have been drilled out for the three bolt
that
orient with the nut to the rear.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <bobp@prosumers.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel - Fuse 5 Question
Hi Richard !

I'm not sure what the problem is, if yours is already correct ...
just leave it.

If you have the bungee gear, I dont think it will matter much,
because somewhere in there, they even allowed the FUS-5's to
be cut in half lengthwise .... not that many do that anymore ...

If you have the spring gear, then there are a whole lot of other
considerations ....

--
......bobp
bobp@prosumers.ca

http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.ordermygift.com

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and do not necessarily reflect the views of any other entities or
persons. Any action taken as a result of the contents of this email is
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-------------------------------orig.-------------------------

On Monday 05 October 2009 02:09, Richard E. Swan wrote:



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Jeff Micheal

[rebel-builders] Rebel - Fus-5 Question

Post by Jeff Micheal » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:36 pm

And then throw away the bungee's, replace with *Compression Spring Gear
Struts** ( Right Wayne ??)

*

On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Wayne G. O'Shea <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>wrote:
If I had a Rebel's cabin floor completely open.... the only mod I would be
considering to the existing spring gear would be getting rid of it and
installing the bungee style gear.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <bobp@prosumers.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel - Fus-5 Question

Hi Richard !

I just checked out a couple of Rebels with spring gear - the nuts
are indeed forward. I suspect the reason might be that the forward
FUS-5's have a large chunk of the end cut off to fit the taper of the
front FUS-70's (which you should have, to replace the old FUS-10's,
if you still have those). Cutting the angle might leave you with
half-holes left ....

You should have a good read through the archives, and study
the photos of spring gear fixes .... If you do the machined solid
inserts into the FUS-5's, then you won't be using the larger
holes too often anyway. If you can cut the front angles, and
still have the holes with proper edge distance, then it likely
won't matter whether they are front or back ...

Also, there are factory Service Bulletins for Spring Gear Mods -
check under the Elite Tech Support pages ...

--
......bobp
bobp@prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.ordermygift.com

Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender
and do not necessarily reflect the views of any other entities or
persons.
Any action taken as a result of the contents of this email is totally the
responsibility of the reader.

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 05 October 2009 02:55, Richard E. Swan wrote:
Thanks for the response Mr. Patterson.
I have the spring gear, on a project that hasn't flown yet. In studying
the plans to get an idea of what to order for the new skins, and how to
go
about it, I just happened to see that my plans called for drilling out
the
ends of the rear tubes to install the three bolts (each side) that
fasten
both forward and rear tube with their respective upright in the cage
assembly. When I looked at what I have on hand with the project, I
noticed
that both forward tube ends have been drilled out for the three bolt
that
orient with the nut to the rear.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <bobp@prosumers.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel - Fuse 5 Question
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Wayne G. O'Shea

[rebel-builders] Rebel - Fus-5 Question

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:37 pm

Well of course Jeff..... :O)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Micheal" <westcoastkitplanes@gmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:21 AM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel - Fus-5 Question

And then throw away the bungee's, replace with *Compression Spring Gear
Struts** ( Right Wayne ??)

*

On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Wayne G. O'Shea
<oifa@irishfield.on.ca>wrote:
If I had a Rebel's cabin floor completely open.... the only mod I would
be
considering to the existing spring gear would be getting rid of it and
installing the bungee style gear.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <bobp@prosumers.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel - Fus-5 Question

Hi Richard !

I just checked out a couple of Rebels with spring gear - the nuts
are indeed forward. I suspect the reason might be that the forward
FUS-5's have a large chunk of the end cut off to fit the taper of the
front FUS-70's (which you should have, to replace the old FUS-10's,
if you still have those). Cutting the angle might leave you with
half-holes left ....

You should have a good read through the archives, and study
the photos of spring gear fixes .... If you do the machined solid
inserts into the FUS-5's, then you won't be using the larger
holes too often anyway. If you can cut the front angles, and
still have the holes with proper edge distance, then it likely
won't matter whether they are front or back ...

Also, there are factory Service Bulletins for Spring Gear Mods -
check under the Elite Tech Support pages ...

--
......bobp
bobp@prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.ordermygift.com

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and do not necessarily reflect the views of any other entities or
persons.
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the
responsibility of the reader.

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
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[rebel-builders] Rebel - Fus-5 Question

Post by Bob Patterson » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:37 pm

Me too !!! My thoughts exactly ....

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-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Monday 05 October 2009 03:36, Wayne G. O'Shea wrote:
If I had a Rebel's cabin floor completely open.... the only mod I would be
considering to the existing spring gear would be getting rid of it and
installing the bungee style gear.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <bobp@prosumers.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel - Fus-5 Question
Hi Richard !

I just checked out a couple of Rebels with spring gear - the nuts
are indeed forward. I suspect the reason might be that the forward
FUS-5's have a large chunk of the end cut off to fit the taper of the
front FUS-70's (which you should have, to replace the old FUS-10's,
if you still have those). Cutting the angle might leave you with
half-holes left ....

You should have a good read through the archives, and study
the photos of spring gear fixes .... If you do the machined solid
inserts into the FUS-5's, then you won't be using the larger
holes too often anyway. If you can cut the front angles, and
still have the holes with proper edge distance, then it likely
won't matter whether they are front or back ...

Also, there are factory Service Bulletins for Spring Gear Mods -
check under the Elite Tech Support pages ...

--
......bobp
bobp@prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.ordermygift.com

Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender
and do not necessarily reflect the views of any other entities or
persons. Any action taken as a result of the contents of this email is
totally the responsibility of the reader.

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------

On Monday 05 October 2009 02:55, Richard E. Swan wrote:
Thanks for the response Mr. Patterson.
I have the spring gear, on a project that hasn't flown yet. In
studying the plans to get an idea of what to order for the new skins,
and how to go
about it, I just happened to see that my plans called for drilling out
the
ends of the rear tubes to install the three bolts (each side) that
fasten both forward and rear tube with their respective upright in the
cage assembly. When I looked at what I have on hand with the project, I
noticed
that both forward tube ends have been drilled out for the three bolt
that
orient with the nut to the rear.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <bobp@prosumers.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Rebel - Fuse 5 Question


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