[rebel-builders] forward facing extra seat: seat belt attach
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:32 pm
Hi Rob
I've done just that, copied the mid front seats bracket and 2 intercostals
per bracket and inserted 2 of them on either side of a single set of MAM
seat rails in the middle of the rear floor area in my Elite.
A MAM seatbelt without the shoulder harness then connects to the 2 brackets,
making it identical to the front seats. The only difference is the foam on
the seat cushion is about 2" less so the seat is lower as the roof slopes
down in that area and I wanted a bit of headroom for the jumpseater.
There is no requirement for upper torso restraint on rear seats that I can
find, so fitting an extra bracket whilst a good idea would generate more
problems for me in my final inspection than it would be worth.
I'll email you pic's off list if you would like ?
Nigel
745E
England
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Sent: 14 September 2009 03:13
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] forward facing extra seat: seat belt attach
Hi all,
I am installing the foward floor and have been browsing the archives for
tips
and ideas before committing to final positioning of channels and seats
etc...
Wayne appears to have had his Rebel set up at some point for four seats.
Has anyone else done this? While I'm not sure I will, I like the idea of
retaining the option of a third seat facing forward. I was always
uncomfortable with the third seat perpendicular to the direction of travel.
To
make this work one would need an extra set of side (top and bottom) and
floor rear seat belt attach brackets. Wayne has a description in the
archives
of the placement / install of these, but a picture is worth a thousand
words....does anyone else have a copy of these that Wayne may have sent?
The really critical seat belt attach at this point in the build would be the
floor
channel fitting (like that between the front seats). I was going to place a
duplicate attach fitting just forward of bulkhead A. Is this too far
forward to
be of any use? Would it have to go between bulkhead A and B?
This fitting would obviously protrude from the floor as does the forward
fitting. How might this impact the utility of the rear of the aircraft in
terms of
luggage, or sleeping? Having something jut out of the floor back there
might
make finding a good sleeping position impossible...lest we forget the
elevator
cable fairing running right down the middle of the fuselage too. Anyone
already flying have an opinion on all this? I thought about a retractable
seat
belt attach fitting, but I'm reluctant to deviate from the established
design
when it comes to something like this.
Thanks for your input,
Rob
Rebel 786
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I've done just that, copied the mid front seats bracket and 2 intercostals
per bracket and inserted 2 of them on either side of a single set of MAM
seat rails in the middle of the rear floor area in my Elite.
A MAM seatbelt without the shoulder harness then connects to the 2 brackets,
making it identical to the front seats. The only difference is the foam on
the seat cushion is about 2" less so the seat is lower as the roof slopes
down in that area and I wanted a bit of headroom for the jumpseater.
There is no requirement for upper torso restraint on rear seats that I can
find, so fitting an extra bracket whilst a good idea would generate more
problems for me in my final inspection than it would be worth.
I'll email you pic's off list if you would like ?
Nigel
745E
England
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
schaumr@dcsol.com
Sent: 14 September 2009 03:13
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] forward facing extra seat: seat belt attach
Hi all,
I am installing the foward floor and have been browsing the archives for
tips
and ideas before committing to final positioning of channels and seats
etc...
Wayne appears to have had his Rebel set up at some point for four seats.
Has anyone else done this? While I'm not sure I will, I like the idea of
retaining the option of a third seat facing forward. I was always
uncomfortable with the third seat perpendicular to the direction of travel.
To
make this work one would need an extra set of side (top and bottom) and
floor rear seat belt attach brackets. Wayne has a description in the
archives
of the placement / install of these, but a picture is worth a thousand
words....does anyone else have a copy of these that Wayne may have sent?
The really critical seat belt attach at this point in the build would be the
floor
channel fitting (like that between the front seats). I was going to place a
duplicate attach fitting just forward of bulkhead A. Is this too far
forward to
be of any use? Would it have to go between bulkhead A and B?
This fitting would obviously protrude from the floor as does the forward
fitting. How might this impact the utility of the rear of the aircraft in
terms of
luggage, or sleeping? Having something jut out of the floor back there
might
make finding a good sleeping position impossible...lest we forget the
elevator
cable fairing running right down the middle of the fuselage too. Anyone
already flying have an opinion on all this? I thought about a retractable
seat
belt attach fitting, but I'm reluctant to deviate from the established
design
when it comes to something like this.
Thanks for your input,
Rob
Rebel 786
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