PROSEAL

Wayne G. O'Shea · Post by **Wayne G. O'Shea** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:05 am

Anytime Gilles! Remember that is just my opinion on the subject
..........and there are many others here that differ and have thinned the
stuff with apparent "success" (but not sure if any have put fuel into that
"success" yet!)

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gilles St-Pierre" <ranchlaseigneurie@hotmail.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: proseal

thanks Wayne

gilles

From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
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To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: proseal
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 16:06:45 -0500

NONE!

I absolutely refuse to play with it and only use as it comes out of the

can

mixed with a proper 10 to 1 (by weight) ratio to the catalyst.

I have never found any reason to thin it to use on anything. Spread it

out

with a putty knife, between mating seems, and cleco/rivet together.

Cheers,
Wayne

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Subject: proseal

Wayne
what is the best thinner to dilute proseal
thanks
gilles

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Gilles St-Pierre · Post by **Gilles St-Pierre** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:05 am

thanks Wayne

gilles

From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
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To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: proseal
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 16:06:45 -0500

NONE!

I absolutely refuse to play with it and only use as it comes out of the can
mixed with a proper 10 to 1 (by weight) ratio to the catalyst.

I have never found any reason to thin it to use on anything. Spread it out
with a putty knife, between mating seems, and cleco/rivet together.

Cheers,
Wayne

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Subject: proseal

Wayne
what is the best thinner to dilute proseal
thanks
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Gordon Mohr · Post by **Gordon Mohr** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:05 am

I agree with Wayne. Proseal doesn't "dry" by evaporation of the
solvent like most sealers. It is a two part chemical reaction and any
added substance will interfere with the process. It would be like
thinning fibreglass with water; the water would be trapped within the
final product and weaken it.
If you don't like the mess of proseal (and who does?), Aircraft Spruce
sells it in cartridges that you can apply with a caulking gun.

Gordon Mohr

Wayne G. O'Shea wrote:

Anytime Gilles! Remember that is just my opinion on the subject
..........and there are many others here that differ and have thinned the
stuff with apparent "success" (but not sure if any have put fuel into that
"success" yet!)

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gilles St-Pierre" <ranchlaseigneurie@hotmail.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: proseal

thanks Wayne

gilles

From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
Reply-To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: proseal
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 16:06:45 -0500

NONE!

I absolutely refuse to play with it and only use as it comes out of the

can

mixed with a proper 10 to 1 (by weight) ratio to the catalyst.

I have never found any reason to thin it to use on anything. Spread it

out

with a putty knife, between mating seems, and cleco/rivet together.

Cheers,
Wayne

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Alan Hepburn · Post by **Alan Hepburn** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:05 am

If you want thin Proseal, buy thin proseal. It is available in a thick
brushable consistency. I brushed it on the heads of the rivets and along
the seams on the bottom of the tank. I don't knwe if it improved the seal,
but it made me feel better about it. I don't know how it will stand the
test of time, but in passed the baloon test with no problem.

Al Hepburn

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brittreed · Post by **brittreed** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:05 am

On 3/12/2004 7:43 AM, GMOHR@TELUS.NET wrote to MURPHY-REBEL:

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-> I agree with Wayne. Proseal doesn't "dry" by evaporation of the
-> solvent like most sealers. It is a two part chemical reaction and any
-> added substance will interfere with the process. It would be like
-> thinning fibreglass with water; the water would be trapped within the
-> final product and weaken it.
-> If you don't like the mess of proseal (and who does?), Aircraft Spruce
-> sells it in cartridges that you can apply with a caulking gun.
->
-> Gordon Mohr
->
-> Wayne G. O'Shea wrote:
->
-> >Anytime Gilles! Remember that is just my opinion on the subject
-> >..........and there are many others here that differ and have thinned the
-> >stuff with apparent "success" (but not sure if any have put fuel into that
-> >"success" yet!)
-> >
-> >Wayne
-> >
-> >----- Original Message -----
-> >From: "Gilles St-Pierre" <ranchlaseigneurie@hotmail.com>
-> >To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
-> >Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:36 PM
-> >Subject: Re: proseal
-> >
-> >
-> >
-> >
-> >>thanks Wayne
-> >>
-> >>gilles
-> >>
-> >>
-> >>
-> >>
-> >>>From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
-> >>>Reply-To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
-> >>>To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
-> >>>Subject: Re: proseal
-> >>>Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 16:06:45 -0500
-> >>>
-> >>>NONE!
-> >>>
-> >>>I absolutely refuse to play with it and only use as it comes out of the
-> >>>
-> >>>
-> >can
-> >
-> >
-> >>>mixed with a proper 10 to 1 (by weight) ratio to the catalyst.
-> >>>
-> >>>I have never found any reason to thin it to use on anything. Spread it
-> >>>
-> >>>
-> >out
-> >
-> >
-> >>>with a putty knife, between mating seems, and cleco/rivet together.
-> >>>
-> >>>Cheers,
-> >>>Wayne
-> >>>
-> >>>
-> >>>
->
->

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brittreed · Post by **brittreed** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:05 am

While you are at it try Flamemaster for less than half the price - and the
same mil-spec->
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Jean Poirier · Post by **Jean Poirier** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:09 am

Leavens told me they have proseal products (PPG) but they ask me which one? I have no idea and they are many products on the PPG web site.. So someone have a part number and a price I should pay?

Jean
Rebel 747R

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Jones, Michael · Post by **Jones, Michael** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:27 am

hi all

i have finished my wings and have extra can of proseal with only 5% used of
it, does anyone want to buy it cheap, seems a shame to waste it

mike#007

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Wayne G. O'Shea · Post by **Wayne G. O'Shea** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:27 am

Have you pressure tested before you go giving that can away??

) I'd put
it back in the fridge and keep it for a rainy day!

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Subject: proseal

hi all

i have finished my wings and have extra can of proseal with only 5% used

of

it, does anyone want to buy it cheap, seems a shame to waste it

mike#007

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Jones, Michael · Post by **Jones, Michael** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:27 am

HI ALL

wayne, yes have pressure tested both tanks, couple small problems but
overall pretty dam good, no leaks, would keep proseal but figure its couple
more years before i get it in air and it will expire long before then

mike#007

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Ken · Post by **Ken** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:27 am

I don't know if it still meets fuel spec but I can confirm that it will
last 10 years in a deep freezer ;)
Ken

Jones, Michael wrote:

HI ALL

wayne, yes have pressure tested both tanks, couple small problems but
overall pretty dam good, no leaks, would keep proseal but figure its couple
more years before i get it in air and it will expire long before then

mike#007

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Wayne G. O'Shea · Post by **Wayne G. O'Shea** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:27 am

I fixed a leak'r this summer with a 7 year old can that was just as nice to
work with as when it was new. Hardened up quickly etc. and seamed
(intentional spelling) to do the trick! This leak'r was a top stringer in a
tank that has held full fuel for 12 years!!..... so you never know when the
right (or wrong) twist/age etc might cause a weeper to develop.

Wayne

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Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: PROSEAL

I don't know if it still meets fuel spec but I can confirm that it will
last 10 years in a deep freezer ;)
Ken

Jones, Michael wrote:

HI ALL

wayne, yes have pressure tested both tanks, couple small problems but
overall pretty dam good, no leaks, would keep proseal but figure its

couple

more years before i get it in air and it will expire long before then

mike#007

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Ralph Baker · Post by **Ralph Baker** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:27 am

Mike.
I notice the name is caps - obviously because of the great reverence all
MAM builders have for the wonderous material.

I just mixed a small batch for a non critical adhesive & seal
application from a can that has sat unrefrigerated, Winter and Summer,
in South Carolina for seven years. It set up fine. I would not trust
it for anything important after room temp storage of that duration but
it doesn't go wimpy after six months. Freezer storage should extend
useful life further than my method as well.

I'm with Wayne, keep it frozen and a use will appear.
Ralph Baker

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Robert and Olga · Post by **Robert and Olga** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:27 am

Hi Mike: I would be interested in your proseal. I am currently helping a
fellow with his Rebel and the wings are our next phase. Please advise your
location and price. You can reply directly to rjohnson18@cogeco.ca to avoid
tying up the builders web. Thanks Bob Johnson Rebel 652

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Jim Cole · Post by **Jim Cole** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:49 am

It looks like I might have to pay the price for taking almost a year off
of building!
I'm about to solid rivet the main spar and I need to proseal in the tank
area.
The problem is that the ProSeal that I received is now out of date as
of. 08/03. It's never been opened.
Do I just through it out or can I use it? I'm inclined not to risk it
but I thought I would ask just in case.

Thanks
Jim
SR083Moose

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