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Wayne G. O'Shea

[rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:44 am

Just think Walter...Bruce will get to nag you over the radio for 2500 miles
if it doesn't work! ;o)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 11:15 AM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Mine only has a single O-ring there, so I guess that explains it. Like
I've
said before, one of these winters, I want to take the floats right off for
a
full inspection, but hopefully this fix will get me by for another summer.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Bruce
Georgen
Sent: May 7, 2006 7:34 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Walter,

It's the front end cap that now have two small o rings (like the piston)
instead of one... if you buy the whole cap new. This is where my cyl. have
leaked as the rod moved in and out. I suspect this is why they changed the
design. I reused the rear end cap o rings because I didn't have
replacements
but they worked fine with no leaks.

I suspect it might have been easier to just remove the whole wheel to get
to
the cyl. and check the bearings/brakes and everything else, for piece of
mind, while you have it apart.

I suggest checking the axles for rotation in the c clamp with a mark. Both
my axles where rotating even with the bolts/nuts over torqued. I had to
sand
down the c clamp on a disc sander so it would grab the axle correctly.

Bruce G





-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Klatt <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
Sent: May 7, 2006 9:41 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

I've had my wheels apart, too, for the grease fittings, but haven't
noticed
axles turning, but can try what you suggest to be sure.

Yesterday I took the cylinder apart with the rear end still attached.
However, was not able to keep the cylinder tube attached, so took it off
as
well. I had a further complication with the hydraulic hose attached to
the
front end cap making it difficult to get the piston rod out, but
eventually
got it. Then it was no easy job picking out that O-ring from that cap
while
inside the wheel well either.

I got some replacement O-rings from Julius (his home parts warehouse must
be
almost as big as Wayne's), and changed the big piston O-rings (they still
looked OK) and the little one in the front end cap for the piston rod.
Getting that little one into the end cap working through the float cap
hole
was even harder than getting the old one out. I also have the thin ones
for
the end caps, but am going to try and go with the old ones because of the
difficulty getting in there. I noted what Drew said, so will be watching
for
leaks.

So, today will put it all together, and see if my fix works. If not, I
guess
will have to take the wheels off and try again. At least the weather is
still crappy, so not missing any flying.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Bruce
Georgen
Sent: May 6, 2006 8:15 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs


Walter,

I took my mains off to tap the axles for grease zerks and it wasn't that
difficult. Check the c clamps while your at it. I had to sand alum off
the
c
clamp to keep the axle from rotating. You can check yours by making a
mark
on the axle and see if it moves after a few landings.

Bruce G
----Original Message-----
From: Walter Klatt <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
Sent: May 6, 2006 3:35 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

We'll see, I might just do that. I was hoping for a quick fix and do
some
more flying this weekend, but the weather is wet today, and tomorrow is
not
looking good either. I was planning to take my floats off this winter
for
a
thorough check, and the timing obviously would have been good, but never
got
around to it, so will have to do it next winter, maybe. Am trying to
avoid
any down time this time of year.

But even with the wheels off, not sure if those small cut out wheel well
holes would allow me much room, especially trying to work upside down.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Bruce
Georgen
Sent: May 6, 2006 12:21 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs


Walter,

Just take the wheels off, you wanted to check your bearings anyway and
it
would make the cyl fix easier to put it on your bench and take it apart
to
replace all the o rings while your at it.

Bruce G


-----Original Message-----
the
the
all
your
be
dump
it
wire
the
the
grips
down
rods
and
is
polluting
my
it.
main position
pre-builts),
notice
the
really
then
undo
that
Of
and
at
all
the
When
pump
pressure
in
will
will
valve
is
was
you
are
line
many
it's
sun.
and
idea
worry
minute
on
other
want
to
taxiing.
Has
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Walter Klatt

[rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Post by Walter Klatt » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:44 am

Just got back again from my hangar, and I think the job is finished. Managed
to get everything together again properly, and to my surprise no leaks. Had
to get all the air out again and tested it best I can, but it looks good.

It was brutal, though, and sure don't want to have to do that again.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: May 7, 2006 8:19 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Just think Walter...Bruce will get to nag you over the radio for 2500 miles
if it doesn't work! ;o)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 11:15 AM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Mine only has a single O-ring there, so I guess that explains it. Like
I've
said before, one of these winters, I want to take the floats right off for
a
full inspection, but hopefully this fix will get me by for another summer.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Bruce
Georgen
Sent: May 7, 2006 7:34 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Walter,

It's the front end cap that now have two small o rings (like the piston)
instead of one... if you buy the whole cap new. This is where my cyl. have
leaked as the rod moved in and out. I suspect this is why they changed the
design. I reused the rear end cap o rings because I didn't have
replacements
but they worked fine with no leaks.

I suspect it might have been easier to just remove the whole wheel to get
to
the cyl. and check the bearings/brakes and everything else, for piece of
mind, while you have it apart.

I suggest checking the axles for rotation in the c clamp with a mark. Both
my axles where rotating even with the bolts/nuts over torqued. I had to
sand
down the c clamp on a disc sander so it would grab the axle correctly.

Bruce G





-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Klatt <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
Sent: May 7, 2006 9:41 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

I've had my wheels apart, too, for the grease fittings, but haven't
noticed
axles turning, but can try what you suggest to be sure.

Yesterday I took the cylinder apart with the rear end still attached.
However, was not able to keep the cylinder tube attached, so took it off
as
well. I had a further complication with the hydraulic hose attached to
the
front end cap making it difficult to get the piston rod out, but
eventually
got it. Then it was no easy job picking out that O-ring from that cap
while
inside the wheel well either.

I got some replacement O-rings from Julius (his home parts warehouse must
be
almost as big as Wayne's), and changed the big piston O-rings (they still
looked OK) and the little one in the front end cap for the piston rod.
Getting that little one into the end cap working through the float cap
hole
was even harder than getting the old one out. I also have the thin ones
for
the end caps, but am going to try and go with the old ones because of the
difficulty getting in there. I noted what Drew said, so will be watching
for
leaks.

So, today will put it all together, and see if my fix works. If not, I
guess
will have to take the wheels off and try again. At least the weather is
still crappy, so not missing any flying.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Bruce
Georgen
Sent: May 6, 2006 8:15 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs


Walter,

I took my mains off to tap the axles for grease zerks and it wasn't that
difficult. Check the c clamps while your at it. I had to sand alum off
the
c
clamp to keep the axle from rotating. You can check yours by making a
mark
on the axle and see if it moves after a few landings.

Bruce G
----Original Message-----
From: Walter Klatt <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
Sent: May 6, 2006 3:35 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

We'll see, I might just do that. I was hoping for a quick fix and do
some
more flying this weekend, but the weather is wet today, and tomorrow is
not
looking good either. I was planning to take my floats off this winter
for
a
thorough check, and the timing obviously would have been good, but never
got
around to it, so will have to do it next winter, maybe. Am trying to
avoid
any down time this time of year.

But even with the wheels off, not sure if those small cut out wheel well
holes would allow me much room, especially trying to work upside down.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Bruce
Georgen
Sent: May 6, 2006 12:21 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs


Walter,

Just take the wheels off, you wanted to check your bearings anyway and
it
would make the cyl fix easier to put it on your bench and take it apart
to
replace all the o rings while your at it.

Bruce G


-----Original Message-----
the
the
all
your
be
dump
it
wire
the
the
grips
down
rods
and
is
polluting
my
it.
main position
pre-builts),
notice
the
really
then
undo
that
Of
and
at
all
the
When
pump
pressure
in
will
will
valve
is
was
you
are
line
many
it's
sun.
and
idea
worry
minute
on
other
want
to
taxiing.
Has
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Wayne G. O'Shea

[rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:44 am

Great! Is the "big trip" still going ahead as expected with a July ~18th
arrival date?

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Just got back again from my hangar, and I think the job is finished.
Managed
to get everything together again properly, and to my surprise no leaks.
Had
to get all the air out again and tested it best I can, but it looks good.

It was brutal, though, and sure don't want to have to do that again.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: May 7, 2006 8:19 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Just think Walter...Bruce will get to nag you over the radio for 2500
miles
if it doesn't work! ;o)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 11:15 AM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Mine only has a single O-ring there, so I guess that explains it. Like
I've
said before, one of these winters, I want to take the floats right off
for
a
full inspection, but hopefully this fix will get me by for another
summer.
Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Bruce
Georgen
Sent: May 7, 2006 7:34 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Walter,

It's the front end cap that now have two small o rings (like the piston)
instead of one... if you buy the whole cap new. This is where my cyl.
have
leaked as the rod moved in and out. I suspect this is why they changed
the
design. I reused the rear end cap o rings because I didn't have
replacements
but they worked fine with no leaks.

I suspect it might have been easier to just remove the whole wheel to
get
to
the cyl. and check the bearings/brakes and everything else, for piece
of
mind, while you have it apart.

I suggest checking the axles for rotation in the c clamp with a mark.
Both
my axles where rotating even with the bolts/nuts over torqued. I had to
sand
down the c clamp on a disc sander so it would grab the axle correctly.

Bruce G





-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Klatt <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
Sent: May 7, 2006 9:41 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

I've had my wheels apart, too, for the grease fittings, but haven't
noticed
axles turning, but can try what you suggest to be sure.

Yesterday I took the cylinder apart with the rear end still attached.
However, was not able to keep the cylinder tube attached, so took it
off
as
well. I had a further complication with the hydraulic hose attached to
the
front end cap making it difficult to get the piston rod out, but
eventually
got it. Then it was no easy job picking out that O-ring from that cap
while
inside the wheel well either.

I got some replacement O-rings from Julius (his home parts warehouse
must
be
almost as big as Wayne's), and changed the big piston O-rings (they
still
looked OK) and the little one in the front end cap for the piston rod.
Getting that little one into the end cap working through the float cap
hole
was even harder than getting the old one out. I also have the thin ones
for
the end caps, but am going to try and go with the old ones because of
the
difficulty getting in there. I noted what Drew said, so will be
watching
for
leaks.

So, today will put it all together, and see if my fix works. If not, I
guess
will have to take the wheels off and try again. At least the weather is
still crappy, so not missing any flying.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Bruce
Georgen
Sent: May 6, 2006 8:15 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs


Walter,

I took my mains off to tap the axles for grease zerks and it wasn't
that
difficult. Check the c clamps while your at it. I had to sand alum off
the
c
clamp to keep the axle from rotating. You can check yours by making a
mark
on the axle and see if it moves after a few landings.

Bruce G
----Original Message-----
some
is
not
for
a
never
got
avoid
well
Bruce
it
apart
to
as
the
in
the
pour
all
give
your
be
out....then
it
wire
with
the
the
should
grips
down
problem?
Of
after
rods
and
O -ring
is
parts
polluting
my
found
it.
rear
pre-builts),
notice
really
and
then
undo
if
that
Behalf
Of
and
at
hold
the
When
pump
pressure
will
location)...it
will
valve
the
pump
was
you
check
line
Nancy?
how
many
it's
sun.
and
good
worry
minute
other
my
want
to
taxiing.
maintain
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Walter Klatt

[rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Post by Walter Klatt » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:44 am

Yep, as far as I'm concerned. Don't think will make the 18th, as I won't be
leaving Nimpo until the morning of the 16th. Will meet up with Al P. that
evening or the next day, depending on the weather, and head east.

How about Bob P. and the Ramble? You guys still heading out west? Bruce G.
and I, and whoever else is along, want to spend the week after Arlington
flying around BC and to Nimpo Lake. There are a lot of great places here to
visit both on floats and wheels and would be happy to show people around.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: May 7, 2006 12:30 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Great! Is the "big trip" still going ahead as expected with a July ~18th
arrival date?

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Just got back again from my hangar, and I think the job is finished.
Managed
to get everything together again properly, and to my surprise no leaks.
Had
to get all the air out again and tested it best I can, but it looks good.

It was brutal, though, and sure don't want to have to do that again.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: May 7, 2006 8:19 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Just think Walter...Bruce will get to nag you over the radio for 2500
miles
if it doesn't work! ;o)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 11:15 AM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Mine only has a single O-ring there, so I guess that explains it. Like
I've
said before, one of these winters, I want to take the floats right off
for
a
full inspection, but hopefully this fix will get me by for another
summer.
Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Bruce
Georgen
Sent: May 7, 2006 7:34 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Walter,

It's the front end cap that now have two small o rings (like the piston)
instead of one... if you buy the whole cap new. This is where my cyl.
have
leaked as the rod moved in and out. I suspect this is why they changed
the
design. I reused the rear end cap o rings because I didn't have
replacements
but they worked fine with no leaks.

I suspect it might have been easier to just remove the whole wheel to
get
to
the cyl. and check the bearings/brakes and everything else, for piece
of
mind, while you have it apart.

I suggest checking the axles for rotation in the c clamp with a mark.
Both
my axles where rotating even with the bolts/nuts over torqued. I had to
sand
down the c clamp on a disc sander so it would grab the axle correctly.

Bruce G





-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Klatt <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
Sent: May 7, 2006 9:41 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

I've had my wheels apart, too, for the grease fittings, but haven't
noticed
axles turning, but can try what you suggest to be sure.

Yesterday I took the cylinder apart with the rear end still attached.
However, was not able to keep the cylinder tube attached, so took it
off
as
well. I had a further complication with the hydraulic hose attached to
the
front end cap making it difficult to get the piston rod out, but
eventually
got it. Then it was no easy job picking out that O-ring from that cap
while
inside the wheel well either.

I got some replacement O-rings from Julius (his home parts warehouse
must
be
almost as big as Wayne's), and changed the big piston O-rings (they
still
looked OK) and the little one in the front end cap for the piston rod.
Getting that little one into the end cap working through the float cap
hole
was even harder than getting the old one out. I also have the thin ones
for
the end caps, but am going to try and go with the old ones because of
the
difficulty getting in there. I noted what Drew said, so will be
watching
for
leaks.

So, today will put it all together, and see if my fix works. If not, I
guess
will have to take the wheels off and try again. At least the weather is
still crappy, so not missing any flying.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Bruce
Georgen
Sent: May 6, 2006 8:15 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs


Walter,

I took my mains off to tap the axles for grease zerks and it wasn't
that
difficult. Check the c clamps while your at it. I had to sand alum off
the
c
clamp to keep the axle from rotating. You can check yours by making a
mark
on the axle and see if it moves after a few landings.

Bruce G
----Original Message-----
some
is
not
for
a
never
got
avoid
well
Bruce
it
apart
to
as
the
in
the
pour
all
give
your
be
out....then
it
wire
with
the
the
should
grips
down
problem?
Of
after
rods
and
O -ring
is
parts
polluting
my
found
it.
rear
pre-builts),
notice
really
and
then
undo
if
that
Behalf
Of
and
at
hold
the
When
pump
pressure
will
location)...it
will
valve
the
pump
was
you
check
line
Nancy?
how
many
it's
sun.
and
good
worry
minute
other
my
want
to
taxiing.
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Wayne G. O'Shea

[rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:44 am

Okay...just making sure the cottage calendar is marked correctly so I can
have the place cleared out for your arrivals. Make sure everyone brings some
long lines..couple 50 footers each + your normal dock ropes...I'll have lots
of rope around as well and we'll be fine.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 3:43 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Yep, as far as I'm concerned. Don't think will make the 18th, as I won't
be
leaving Nimpo until the morning of the 16th. Will meet up with Al P. that
evening or the next day, depending on the weather, and head east.

How about Bob P. and the Ramble? You guys still heading out west? Bruce G.
and I, and whoever else is along, want to spend the week after Arlington
flying around BC and to Nimpo Lake. There are a lot of great places here
to
visit both on floats and wheels and would be happy to show people around.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: May 7, 2006 12:30 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Great! Is the "big trip" still going ahead as expected with a July ~18th
arrival date?

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Just got back again from my hangar, and I think the job is finished.
Managed
to get everything together again properly, and to my surprise no leaks.
Had
to get all the air out again and tested it best I can, but it looks
good.
It was brutal, though, and sure don't want to have to do that again.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: May 7, 2006 8:19 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Just think Walter...Bruce will get to nag you over the radio for 2500
miles
if it doesn't work! ;o)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 11:15 AM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Mine only has a single O-ring there, so I guess that explains it. Like
I've
said before, one of these winters, I want to take the floats right off
for
a
full inspection, but hopefully this fix will get me by for another
summer.
Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Bruce
Georgen
Sent: May 7, 2006 7:34 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Walter,

It's the front end cap that now have two small o rings (like the
piston)
instead of one... if you buy the whole cap new. This is where my cyl.
have
leaked as the rod moved in and out. I suspect this is why they changed
the
design. I reused the rear end cap o rings because I didn't have
replacements
but they worked fine with no leaks.

I suspect it might have been easier to just remove the whole wheel to
get
to
the cyl. and check the bearings/brakes and everything else, for piece
of
mind, while you have it apart.

I suggest checking the axles for rotation in the c clamp with a mark.
Both
my axles where rotating even with the bolts/nuts over torqued. I had
to
sand
down the c clamp on a disc sander so it would grab the axle correctly.

Bruce G





-----Original Message-----
noticed
off
as
to
the
eventually
while
must
be
still
rod.
cap
hole
ones
for
the
watching
for
I
guess
is
Bruce
that
off
the
c
mark
some
is
not
winter
for
a
never
avoid
well
down.
Of
Bruce
and
it
apart
to
as
the
it
in
pour
give
to
be
out....then
in
it
the
safety
wire
with
tighten
the
of
should
vice
grips
sliding
down
problem?
Behalf
Of
after
rods
on
and
O -ring
is
parts
polluting
found
rear
notice
that
really
and
to
undo
if
Behalf
Of
now
and
issues
at
hold
dump
the
cycle.
When
and
pump
pressure
building
pressure
will
location)...it
valve
the
pump
If
you
check
pressure
line
Nancy?
how
it's
hot
sun.
cylinders
and
good
wouldn't
worry
minute
the
other
my
want
taxiing.
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Bruce Georgen

[rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Post by Bruce Georgen » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:47 am

Wayne,

Sorry I will not be able to make the trip east this year. I would have enjoyed meeting you in person. BC, Nimpo and meet Al on the return trip through Montana is all the time I'm allowed from the War Department (significant other).

Walter, We could stop at my lake home 0n Priest Lake as we head east to meet Al in Libby. Or meet Al at Priest Lake which is not far from Libby. You can get cleaned up, fed and rested for your long journey east. There is moa gas 5 miles down the road at Indian Creak State Park in case somebody needs gas. I Have several 5 gallon plastic cans there.

Now, if I can only remember where I put my passport. Hmmm!

Bruce G



----Original Message-----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
Sent: May 7, 2006 3:48 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Okay...just making sure the cottage calendar is marked correctly so I can
have the place cleared out for your arrivals. Make sure everyone brings some
long lines..couple 50 footers each + your normal dock ropes...I'll have lots
of rope around as well and we'll be fine.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 3:43 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Yep, as far as I'm concerned. Don't think will make the 18th, as I won't
be
leaving Nimpo until the morning of the 16th. Will meet up with Al P. that
evening or the next day, depending on the weather, and head east.

How about Bob P. and the Ramble? You guys still heading out west? Bruce G.
and I, and whoever else is along, want to spend the week after Arlington
flying around BC and to Nimpo Lake. There are a lot of great places here
to
visit both on floats and wheels and would be happy to show people around.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: May 7, 2006 12:30 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Great! Is the "big trip" still going ahead as expected with a July ~18th
arrival date?

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Just got back again from my hangar, and I think the job is finished.
Managed
to get everything together again properly, and to my surprise no leaks.
Had
to get all the air out again and tested it best I can, but it looks
good.
It was brutal, though, and sure don't want to have to do that again.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: May 7, 2006 8:19 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Just think Walter...Bruce will get to nag you over the radio for 2500
miles
if it doesn't work! ;o)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 11:15 AM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

I've
for
a
summer.
Bruce
piston)
have
the
replacements
get
to
of
Both
to
sand noticed
off
as
to
the eventually while
must
still
rod.
cap
hole
ones
for
the
watching
I
is
Bruce
that
off
the mark some
is
winter
for
never
avoid
well
down.
Of
and
it
apart
to
as
it
in
pour
give
to
be
out....then
in
it
the
safety
with
tighten
the
of
should
vice
sliding
down
problem?
Behalf
Of
after
rods
on
and
O -ring
parts
polluting
found
rear
notice
that
really
and
to
undo
if
Behalf
Of
now
and
issues
at
hold
dump
the
cycle.
and
pressure
building
pressure
will
location)...it
valve
the
pump
If
you
check
pressure
Nancy?
how
it's
hot
sun.
cylinders
and
good
wouldn't
worry
minute
the
other
my
want
taxiing.
maintain
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Wayne G. O'Shea

[rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:47 am

Well that sucks.. Guess someone else will have to eat your steak!

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Georgen" <bgeorgen@peoplepc.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Wayne,

Sorry I will not be able to make the trip east this year. I would have
enjoyed meeting you in person. BC, Nimpo and meet Al on the return trip
through Montana is all the time I'm allowed from the War Department
(significant other).
Walter, We could stop at my lake home 0n Priest Lake as we head east to
meet Al in Libby. Or meet Al at Priest Lake which is not far from Libby. You
can get cleaned up, fed and rested for your long journey east. There is moa
gas 5 miles down the road at Indian Creak State Park in case somebody needs
gas. I Have several 5 gallon plastic cans there.
Now, if I can only remember where I put my passport. Hmmm!

Bruce G



----Original Message-----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
Sent: May 7, 2006 3:48 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Okay...just making sure the cottage calendar is marked correctly so I can
have the place cleared out for your arrivals. Make sure everyone brings
some
long lines..couple 50 footers each + your normal dock ropes...I'll have
lots
of rope around as well and we'll be fine.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 3:43 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Yep, as far as I'm concerned. Don't think will make the 18th, as I
won't
be
leaving Nimpo until the morning of the 16th. Will meet up with Al P.
that
evening or the next day, depending on the weather, and head east.

How about Bob P. and the Ramble? You guys still heading out west? Bruce
G.
and I, and whoever else is along, want to spend the week after
Arlington
flying around BC and to Nimpo Lake. There are a lot of great places
here
to
visit both on floats and wheels and would be happy to show people
around.
Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: May 7, 2006 12:30 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Great! Is the "big trip" still going ahead as expected with a July
~18th
arrival date?

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Managed
leaks.
Had
good.
Wayne miles
Like
off
for summer.
Of
piston)
cyl.
have
changed
the
to
get
piece
of
mark.
Both
had
to
correctly.
haven't
attached.
it
off
attached
to
cap
warehouse
must
(they
still
rod.
cap
ones
of
the watching
not,
I
weather
is
Of
wasn't
that
off
making a
do
tomorrow
is
winter
but
never
to
wheel
well
down.
Behalf
Of
anyway
and
apart
move
as
with
it
in
to
pour
then
give
slightly
to
out....then
rag
in
of
the
safety
tube
with
tighten
rods
of
should
vice
sliding
problem?
Behalf
Of
it
after
tie
caps
on
O -ring parts
I
found
left
rear
up
I
that
I
wheels,
and
cylinder
to
summer
if Behalf
now
issues
and
hold
dump
cycle.
down
and
building
pressure
location)...it
check
filling
the
the
pump
down.
If
which
check
pressure
Nancy?
[/quote][/quote]see
how
[/quote]consider
[/quote]if
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cylinders
and
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Walter Klatt

[rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Post by Walter Klatt » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:47 am

Yeah, that sounds good, too, and will have a chance to see your new place.
Is there room for multiple planes at your dock?

You don't need your passport (although it is recommended), but don't also
forget your birth certificate this time, or you might have to stay in Canuck
land a little longer than you had planned.

BTW, have a new HDV camera (Sony HDR-HC3) that will want to try out with
some air to air stuff, if I can get you to go high enough to include some
mountains and snow in the shots.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Bruce
Georgen
Sent: May 8, 2006 7:19 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Wayne,

Sorry I will not be able to make the trip east this year. I would have
enjoyed meeting you in person. BC, Nimpo and meet Al on the return trip
through Montana is all the time I'm allowed from the War Department
(significant other).

Walter, We could stop at my lake home 0n Priest Lake as we head east to meet
Al in Libby. Or meet Al at Priest Lake which is not far from Libby. You can
get cleaned up, fed and rested for your long journey east. There is moa gas
5 miles down the road at Indian Creak State Park in case somebody needs gas.
I Have several 5 gallon plastic cans there.

Now, if I can only remember where I put my passport. Hmmm!

Bruce G



----Original Message-----
From: "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca>
Sent: May 7, 2006 3:48 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Okay...just making sure the cottage calendar is marked correctly so I can
have the place cleared out for your arrivals. Make sure everyone brings
some
long lines..couple 50 footers each + your normal dock ropes...I'll have
lots
of rope around as well and we'll be fine.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 3:43 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Yep, as far as I'm concerned. Don't think will make the 18th, as I won't
be
leaving Nimpo until the morning of the 16th. Will meet up with Al P. that
evening or the next day, depending on the weather, and head east.

How about Bob P. and the Ramble? You guys still heading out west? Bruce
G.
and I, and whoever else is along, want to spend the week after Arlington
flying around BC and to Nimpo Lake. There are a lot of great places here
to
visit both on floats and wheels and would be happy to show people around.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: May 7, 2006 12:30 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Great! Is the "big trip" still going ahead as expected with a July ~18th
arrival date?

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Just got back again from my hangar, and I think the job is finished.
Managed
to get everything together again properly, and to my surprise no leaks.
Had
to get all the air out again and tested it best I can, but it looks
good.
It was brutal, though, and sure don't want to have to do that again.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Wayne
G. O'Shea
Sent: May 7, 2006 8:19 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Just think Walter...Bruce will get to nag you over the radio for 2500
miles
if it doesn't work! ;o)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 11:15 AM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 amphibs

Like
I've
off
for
a
summer.
Bruce
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have
changed
the
replacements
get
to
piece
of
Both
to
sand
correctly.
noticed
attached.
off
as
to
the eventually
cap
while
must
still
rod.
cap
hole
ones
for
of
the
watching
I
is
Of
Bruce
that
off
the
a
mark
do
some
tomorrow
is
winter
for
never
to
avoid
well
down.
Of
and
it
apart
to
move
as
it
in
pour
give
to
be
out....then
in
it
the
safety
with
tighten
the
of
should
vice
sliding
down
problem?
Behalf
Of
after
tie
rods
on
and
O -ring
parts
polluting
found
rear
up
notice
that
really
and
to
undo
summer
if
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Of
now
and
issues
at
hold
dump
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cycle.
and
pressure
building
pressure
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location)...it
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valve
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pump
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Nancy?
how
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John Kramer

[rebel-builders] 1800 Amphibs

Post by John Kramer » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:53 am

Mighty pretty work Wayne.

Catch a few lunkers for me.

Enjoy your well deserved time off.

We will miss your advice while you're gone. Stay safe we'll need
more when you get back.

John...



At 09:02 PM 06/03/06, you wrote:
Been one VERY long week....BUT I might just sleep in tomorrow.... for the
first time in over a month !!! CYP is back where it belongs........

I can go fishing now !!!! ;O)

http://www.irishfield.on.ca/gallery/cyp ... tsdone.jpg
http://www.irishfield.on.ca/gallery/cyp ... floats.jpg
http://www.irishfield.on.ca/gallery/cyp ... 20test.jpg
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N.Smith

[rebel-builders] 1800 Amphibs

Post by N.Smith » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:53 am

Have a great summer break Wayne - they look great !

Thanks for all the advice.

Nig

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: 04 June 2006 03:02
To: Murphy Rebel Builders List
Subject: [rebel-builders] 1800 Amphibs


Been one VERY long week....BUT I might just sleep in tomorrow.... for the
first time in over a month !!! CYP is back where it belongs........

I can go fishing now !!!! ;O)

http://www.irishfield.on.ca/gallery/cyp ... tsdone.jpg
http://www.irishfield.on.ca/gallery/cyp ... floats.jpg
http://www.irishfield.on.ca/gallery/cyp ... 20test.jpg
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Keith Leitch

[rebel-builders] 1800 Amphibs

Post by Keith Leitch » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:53 am

Wayne,
Good luck fishing and take a well deserved rest. I
think you should drop off CYP at my place for the
summmer to give me some insentive to get mine done.:)

I guess my work on the wings is on standby til I get
back this winter. Headed to MN in 4 days to work on
the house til fall. Then back here to Hawaii the end
of November.
Keith R661

--- "Wayne G. O'Shea" <oifa@irishfield.on.ca> wrote:
Been one VERY long week....BUT I might just sleep in
tomorrow.... for the
first time in over a month !!! CYP is back where it
belongs........

I can go fishing now !!!! ;O)

http://www.irishfield.on.ca/gallery/cyp ... tsdone.jpg
http://www.irishfield.on.ca/gallery/cyp ... floats.jpg
http://www.irishfield.on.ca/gallery/cyp ... 20test.jpg
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Walter Klatt

[rebel-builders] 1800 Amphibs

Post by Walter Klatt » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:56 am

Not under floated in my opinion. Have had mine loaded up pretty good on the
water, and always got off easily (near sea level that is). I think these
floats are a perfect match for the Rebel. The problem with larger floats is
weight, and that means you will have to carry less in your plane, so what's
the point.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Clay
Smith
Sent: June 19, 2006 4:46 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] 1800 Amphibs

I'm considering the 1800 amphibs build project this winter. I have heard
some say that they're a little under floated for rebel. I'm wondering if
those of you that are flying these floats are satisfied. Thanks for any
comments.

Clay



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Alan Hepburn

[rebel-builders] 1800 Amphibs

Post by Alan Hepburn » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:56 am

Clay:

I had my Elite on Montana 2200s side by side with a Rebel on Murphy
1800s the other day, and there is a very significant difference. Not
only do you get more floatation, but the keel clearance on land is about
3 times as much, and the rigging is much more substantial. I'd say the
1800s would be problematic on the Elite, though they're probably OK on
the Rebel if you keep the weight down. Of course, nothing is free, and
the Montanas are quite a bit heavier.

BTW, I have posted a few Elite pics on users.xplornet.com/~ahepburn

Al






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Wayne G. O'Shea

[rebel-builders] 1800 Amphibs

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:56 am

O-320 powered Rebel sits out of the water just fine on 1800's...even at
2000lbs all up weight. As Walter pointed out the extra weight using
oversized floats = lost useful load or leaving fuel behind. As Alan has now
pointed out Kinden uses heavier vertical strut material, as the MAM stuff
for the 1800's always looked suspect, BUT I'll tell you and have pictures
and the scrap parts to prove it...you can stretch your Rebel 3" and shorten
it 2". Crumple the float bottoms up as much as 6" from bow to step, buckle
the top T rails and split the side skins at the step.....and the vertical
struts supplied by MAM and all associated attach fittings are still perfect
and reusable...so what's the point of heavier struts?

Okay...back to fishing at 7am ! :O)

Wayne



----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Hepburn" <ahepburn@xplornet.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 8:44 PM
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] 1800 Amphibs

Clay:

I had my Elite on Montana 2200s side by side with a Rebel on Murphy
1800s the other day, and there is a very significant difference. Not
only do you get more floatation, but the keel clearance on land is about
3 times as much, and the rigging is much more substantial. I'd say the
1800s would be problematic on the Elite, though they're probably OK on
the Rebel if you keep the weight down. Of course, nothing is free, and
the Montanas are quite a bit heavier.

BTW, I have posted a few Elite pics on users.xplornet.com/~ahepburn

Al






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Drew Dalgleish

[rebel-builders] 1800 Amphibs

Post by Drew Dalgleish » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:56 am

At 09:15 PM 6/19/2006 -0230, you wrote:
I'm considering the 1800 amphibs build project this winter. I have heard
some say that they're a little under floated for rebel. I'm wondering if
those of you that are flying these floats are satisfied. Thanks for any
comments.
Clay
I'm very satisfied with my floats and I think they are large enough for the
rebel I've more freeboard with my floats than any other plane I've flown.
The only problem I've had is poor quality plumbing materials for the
amphibs that I ended up totally replacing.
Drew



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