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[rebel-builders] What to order with MAM rebel kit...

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Ken

[rebel-builders] What to order with MAM rebel kit...

Post by Ken » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:21 am

Hmmm Too soon to tell about tire wear for me. I've got about 130
landings on the 6 x 6 aircraft tires and haven't noticed any wear yet. I
haven't specifically looked but pretty sure I'd have noticed if one side
was wearing faster. So that is good and maybe what I have is perfect and
I don't know it yet!

Only thing I've noticed is that static I have about 1/2" of spring
compression which seems to be there all the time whether I stop going
forward or after pulling the plane backwards into the hangar. That does
result in noticeable positive camber ( top of wheels closer together
than bottom of wheels). To a critical eye the gear looks a bit saggy
with the wheels not vertical. Back before the engine was mounted I'm
pretty sure that with no spring compression, I mounted the axles at 0
camber (axle parallel to the ground).

The aircraft always sits level which I like. Some of the bungee gear
machines do not always sit level if the bungees have slacked off a bit.
Another good thing is that I have never bottomed out the springs despite
some ahhh "firm" arrivals and bouncing. The way I have set up the
Alaskan safety cables, it would be obvious if the springs came close to
bottoming.

I do I have a bit of toe out when in the 3 point atttitude and no
compression on the springs. Compression would increase the toe out which
is also desireable IMO as I've had no ground loop scares yet. My toe
out might tend to cancel any tendancy to wear the outside of the tire at
touchdown I suppose. So as I said, perhaps it is perfect and I just
don't know it yet ;)

Ken

Wayne G. O'Shea wrote:
Are you guys both telling me that your wheels, while tucked in during
flight, go past center/perpendicular and look squatted sitting static after
a straight forward roll?

Makes no sense to me if you are as even my original set had my skis sitting
perfectly flat and I've made every set of struts since an extra 1/4" shorter
from what they were made at.

Also keep in mind that while touching down your are wearing the outside edge
as it is...making them even shorter would expediate the side wear.

Wayne


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <beep@sympatico.ca>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] What to order with MAM rebel kit...



Hi Ken !

I agree with making the spring struts a bit shorter ! Mine leave the
wheels sloping, and the Dico/Carlyle tires wear quickly enough without
that ... and it would look a bit better when not loaded. :-)

Best to order the 2 extra stringers with the kit - shipping on
full length stringers is expensive !!! If you need them later,
just for stiffeners, have the factory cut them to 5 ft. lengths,
or so - it's a LOT cheaper to ship !

--
......bobp
http://www.prosumers.ca
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-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Saturday 04 November 2006 04:20 pm, Ken wrote:

FWIW I'd probably have Wayne make the spring struts about 3/8" shorter
if doing it again. I'm quite happy with mine but the springs sit about
1/2" compressed with puts a bit of camber on the wheels. It still works
well but 0 camber would look a wee bit better to me. Considering the
punishment we've given them, I'm glad I went with the die springs even
though I'm in the process of building floats.
Ken

Wayne G. O'Shea wrote:


Just

the

bungee




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Mike Kimball

[rebel-builders] What to order with MAM rebel kit...

Post by Mike Kimball » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:21 am

A bit of stinger above the cargo door makes a good rain gutter too. All
sorts of good uses for that stuff.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Patterson
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 1:39 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] What to order with MAM rebel kit...


Hi Ken !

I agree with making the spring struts a bit shorter ! Mine leave the
wheels sloping, and the Dico/Carlyle tires wear quickly enough without
that ... and it would look a bit better when not loaded. :-)

Best to order the 2 extra stringers with the kit - shipping on
full length stringers is expensive !!! If you need them later,
just for stiffeners, have the factory cut them to 5 ft. lengths,
or so - it's a LOT cheaper to ship !

--
......bobp
http://www.prosumers.ca
http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com
http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com
-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Saturday 04 November 2006 04:20 pm, Ken wrote:
FWIW I'd probably have Wayne make the spring struts about 3/8" shorter
if doing it again. I'm quite happy with mine but the springs sit about
1/2" compressed with puts a bit of camber on the wheels. It still works
well but 0 camber would look a wee bit better to me. Considering the
punishment we've given them, I'm glad I went with the die springs even
though I'm in the process of building floats.
Ken

Wayne G. O'Shea wrote:
A couple chains will suffice for support while you wait for the struts.
Just
be sure I'm in a positon to make them for you before hand. Murphy isn't
going to credit your account anything or take the alum bungee struts out
of
your kit before shipping anyhow. Use the tubes for some shop creation in
the
future! and make the kids a tree swing into a lake somewhere with the
bungee
cord! LOL

My last set of currently available struts sounds like it's going to Oz
for
an R2800 Renegade. I'll need some committments to order more steel after
that and keep in mind that I only do shop work from October 'till ice out
(May 1) now... as of last year.

Wayne



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