[rebel-builders] engine for sale

Drew Dalgleish · Post by **Drew Dalgleish** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:56 pm

With all the weight you save by not putting on an XP400 you could go for a
constant speed prop. :)

At 05:05 PM 9/22/2007 -0700, you wrote:

Had a good look at the XP400 engine, and if I had an Elite floatplane, this
would be the engine I would be going for. It is only 25 pounds more than the
XP360, but gives you 220 hp. You can get a high compression version all the
way up to 250 hp, which might be good for a Yukon or Super Rebel.

I would put it in my Rebel too, if I knew it wouldn't tear off my tail.

Walter

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No, the 390/400 are the angle valve versions which are heavier.

Walter

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OK I thought all the parallel valve engines were more or less the same
weight. I'm sure whatever you choose will work. At Oshkosh several years
ago I saw a subaru powered rebel that was over 1100lbs. enpty on wheels. If
you can deal with Wayne Juniper at TC from out west go for it. My mistake
was asking the London TC office for advice they started a file on my plane
right away and I was married to them for the duration of the engine swap.

At 07:03 PM 9/20/2007 -0700, you wrote:
You know I haven't ruled that out yet... ;>) The 390/400 are about 50
pounds
more as I understand it. But heck, saw Dick's Rebel in Arlington this
summer
with the 210 hp 6 cylinder 0360 Cont. Don't think that is any heavier than
the 390/400's. He did have a pretty big battery way back there in the tail,
though.

The other option is a "stroker" 360 (sort of like the ECI 340) for about
200
hp, but same weight and dimensions as the parallel valve 360. But it
requires a special crankshaft, and would definitely be a one-of.

However, don't want to lose my tail either...

Will have to review again your dealings with TC and the engine change.
Would
prefer to just send them a letter after the fact telling them of the
change,
and giving them a new weight and balance, and with new climb tests.

Walter

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Dalgleish
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ONLY a 360 Walter?? I thought by now you'd be lusting for an 0-390 or 400
after all they're the same weight and surely those high mountain lakes must
make it tempting. ;o

At 05:55 PM 9/20/2007 -0700, you wrote:
Well, I've been talking about upgrading my 0320 to an 0360 on my Rebel
floatplane for a couple years. So now that our previously much maligned
loonie is looking at the once mighty greenback square in the eyes, I think
the time has come. I have already picked out my new Lycoming clone engine
complete with roller tappets and electronic ignition, and am ready to
place
the order.

That means that I will be putting my current 0320 engine up for sale. It
has
about 470 hours since overhaul and is working very well. And those that
know
my plane and have flown with me, also know that it is a strong engine and
performs very well. It is the conical mount 150 hp version with Bendix
mags
and lightweight SkyTec starter. Baffles go with it, too, and might even
include the cowl if I need a new one for the 0360.

I will also be selling my prop, either separately or with the engine. It
is
a 74 X 54 metal Sensenich and is very well matched for this engine and the
Rebel on floats. Should work well on wheels, too, if you're looking for
rocket like performance. And now that I think about it, won't be needing
my
3 blade 72 inch Warp prop anymore either. It is ground adjustable and
worked
very well on wheels with this engine.

So if you are looking for a low time, running engine with a known history
and/or a prop, let's make a deal. I will sell it for whatever I can get,
and
am open to offers. If you are within range of Vancouver BC, and I still
have
it on the plane, I can take you up for a ride, too. But the early worm
gets
the fish.

Send me a private email if you are interested, and we can talk.

Walter

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Walter Klatt · Post by **Walter Klatt** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:56 pm

Constant speed won't do much for me on my floatplane Rebel. It is too slow.
CS helps most with faster airplanes like RVs because with fixed pitch they
are usually pretty coarse to optimize high cruise speed, and then can't turn
very high rpm for take-off.

With my Sensenich, I turn 2500 rpm on take-off, and top out at 2720 at WOT
straight and level, so it is very well matched. At 2500 full throttle
take-off rpm, it is producing 140 hp, only 10 less than full rated 150 hp
for my engine. That is according to the Lycoming published power charts.

So 25 more pounds (or more) for a constant speed, would only give me about
10 more hp on a floatplane Rebel. The XP400 for those same 25 pounds has 40
more hp (220) than the XP360 (180), and you can go all the way to 250 hp
with high compression pistons, still at the same weight (310 pounds),
according to their website. So it sounds to me like a pretty hot machine.

Only problem is that the XP400 costs about 8 grand more than the XP360.

Walter

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Dalgleish
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 7:37 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Engine for sale

With all the weight you save by not putting on an XP400 you could go for a
constant speed prop. :)

At 05:05 PM 9/22/2007 -0700, you wrote:

Had a good look at the XP400 engine, and if I had an Elite floatplane, this
would be the engine I would be going for. It is only 25 pounds more than

the

XP360, but gives you 220 hp. You can get a high compression version all the
way up to 250 hp, which might be good for a Yukon or Super Rebel.

I would put it in my Rebel too, if I knew it wouldn't tear off my tail.

Walter

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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of

Walter

Klatt
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 7:28 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Engine for sale

No, the 390/400 are the angle valve versions which are heavier.

Walter

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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Drew
Dalgleish
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 7:18 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Engine for sale

OK I thought all the parallel valve engines were more or less the same
weight. I'm sure whatever you choose will work. At Oshkosh several years
ago I saw a subaru powered rebel that was over 1100lbs. enpty on wheels. If
you can deal with Wayne Juniper at TC from out west go for it. My mistake
was asking the London TC office for advice they started a file on my plane
right away and I was married to them for the duration of the engine swap.

At 07:03 PM 9/20/2007 -0700, you wrote:
You know I haven't ruled that out yet... ;>) The 390/400 are about 50
pounds
more as I understand it. But heck, saw Dick's Rebel in Arlington this
summer
with the 210 hp 6 cylinder 0360 Cont. Don't think that is any heavier than
the 390/400's. He did have a pretty big battery way back there in the

tail,

though.

The other option is a "stroker" 360 (sort of like the ECI 340) for about
200
hp, but same weight and dimensions as the parallel valve 360. But it
requires a special crankshaft, and would definitely be a one-of.

However, don't want to lose my tail either...

Will have to review again your dealings with TC and the engine change.
Would
prefer to just send them a letter after the fact telling them of the
change,
and giving them a new weight and balance, and with new climb tests.

Walter

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Dalgleish
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 6:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Engine for sale

ONLY a 360 Walter?? I thought by now you'd be lusting for an 0-390 or 400
after all they're the same weight and surely those high mountain lakes

must

make it tempting. ;o

At 05:55 PM 9/20/2007 -0700, you wrote:
Well, I've been talking about upgrading my 0320 to an 0360 on my Rebel
floatplane for a couple years. So now that our previously much maligned
loonie is looking at the once mighty greenback square in the eyes, I

think

the time has come. I have already picked out my new Lycoming clone engine
complete with roller tappets and electronic ignition, and am ready to
place
the order.

That means that I will be putting my current 0320 engine up for sale. It
has
about 470 hours since overhaul and is working very well. And those that
know
my plane and have flown with me, also know that it is a strong engine and
performs very well. It is the conical mount 150 hp version with Bendix
mags
and lightweight SkyTec starter. Baffles go with it, too, and might even
include the cowl if I need a new one for the 0360.

I will also be selling my prop, either separately or with the engine. It
is
a 74 X 54 metal Sensenich and is very well matched for this engine and

the

Rebel on floats. Should work well on wheels, too, if you're looking for
rocket like performance. And now that I think about it, won't be needing
my
3 blade 72 inch Warp prop anymore either. It is ground adjustable and
worked
very well on wheels with this engine.

So if you are looking for a low time, running engine with a known history
and/or a prop, let's make a deal. I will sell it for whatever I can get,
and
am open to offers. If you are within range of Vancouver BC, and I still
have
it on the plane, I can take you up for a ride, too. But the early worm
gets
the fish.

Send me a private email if you are interested, and we can talk.

Walter

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Drew Dalgleish · Post by **Drew Dalgleish** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:56 pm

I was just joking Walter but it sounds like you've got it all figured out.
The one thing I should have bought with my engine but didn't is the roller
cam.

At 08:00 PM 9/22/2007 -0700, you wrote:

Constant speed won't do much for me on my floatplane Rebel. It is too slow.
CS helps most with faster airplanes like RVs because with fixed pitch they
are usually pretty coarse to optimize high cruise speed, and then can't turn
very high rpm for take-off.

With my Sensenich, I turn 2500 rpm on take-off, and top out at 2720 at WOT
straight and level, so it is very well matched. At 2500 full throttle
take-off rpm, it is producing 140 hp, only 10 less than full rated 150 hp
for my engine. That is according to the Lycoming published power charts.

So 25 more pounds (or more) for a constant speed, would only give me about
10 more hp on a floatplane Rebel. The XP400 for those same 25 pounds has 40
more hp (220) than the XP360 (180), and you can go all the way to 250 hp
with high compression pistons, still at the same weight (310 pounds),
according to their website. So it sounds to me like a pretty hot machine.

Only problem is that the XP400 costs about 8 grand more than the XP360.

Walter

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Dalgleish
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 7:37 PM
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With all the weight you save by not putting on an XP400 you could go for a
constant speed prop. :)

Drew

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Ken · Post by **Ken** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:56 pm

Sounds like a very well matched prop.
I'll bet the vibration is impressive from a 4 cyl. XP400 !
You don't want to just try an $800. nitrous kit to get 40 hp when you go
to the little high lakes on your existing engine eh? That would totally
eliminate the need for a CS prop.
And you'd have the option of leaving the 15 lb. bottle at home when you
don't need it ;)

Ken

Walter Klatt wrote:

Constant speed won't do much for me on my floatplane Rebel. It is too slow.
CS helps most with faster airplanes like RVs because with fixed pitch they
are usually pretty coarse to optimize high cruise speed, and then can't turn
very high rpm for take-off.

With my Sensenich, I turn 2500 rpm on take-off, and top out at 2720 at WOT
straight and level, so it is very well matched. At 2500 full throttle
take-off rpm, it is producing 140 hp, only 10 less than full rated 150 hp
for my engine. That is according to the Lycoming published power charts.

So 25 more pounds (or more) for a constant speed, would only give me about
10 more hp on a floatplane Rebel. The XP400 for those same 25 pounds has 40
more hp (220) than the XP360 (180), and you can go all the way to 250 hp
with high compression pistons, still at the same weight (310 pounds),
according to their website. So it sounds to me like a pretty hot machine.

Only problem is that the XP400 costs about 8 grand more than the XP360.

Walter

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Walter Klatt · Post by **Walter Klatt** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:56 pm

Yeah, not sure what would be more impressive, having the XP400 tear off my
tail, or watching my little narrow deck 320 blow out the sides of my cowl
when I apply the NO. Sounds like something you should have, Ken. Although
you might want to switch to the closed deck EJ turbo block. Didn't those
things put out over 400 hp when racing?

Walter

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Sounds like a very well matched prop.
I'll bet the vibration is impressive from a 4 cyl. XP400 !
You don't want to just try an $800. nitrous kit to get 40 hp when you go
to the little high lakes on your existing engine eh? That would totally
eliminate the need for a CS prop.
And you'd have the option of leaving the 15 lb. bottle at home when you
don't need it ;)

Ken

Walter Klatt wrote:

Constant speed won't do much for me on my floatplane Rebel. It is too slow.
CS helps most with faster airplanes like RVs because with fixed pitch they
are usually pretty coarse to optimize high cruise speed, and then can't

turn

very high rpm for take-off.

With my Sensenich, I turn 2500 rpm on take-off, and top out at 2720 at WOT
straight and level, so it is very well matched. At 2500 full throttle
take-off rpm, it is producing 140 hp, only 10 less than full rated 150 hp
for my engine. That is according to the Lycoming published power charts.

So 25 more pounds (or more) for a constant speed, would only give me about
10 more hp on a floatplane Rebel. The XP400 for those same 25 pounds has 40
more hp (220) than the XP360 (180), and you can go all the way to 250 hp
with high compression pistons, still at the same weight (310 pounds),
according to their website. So it sounds to me like a pretty hot machine.

Only problem is that the XP400 costs about 8 grand more than the XP360.

Walter

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Ken · Post by **Ken** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:56 pm

Yep twin turbos have been known to pull 400 hp even on the 2 liter engine ;)
I figure occassional short bursts of cold NO intake temps are easier on
the engine than hot air from a turbo but there aren't many high small
lakes around here. I think a modest bit of NO will be fine with an open
deck 2.2 liter and probably also on a Lyc. ;)
Ken

Walter Klatt wrote:

Yeah, not sure what would be more impressive, having the XP400 tear off my
tail, or watching my little narrow deck 320 blow out the sides of my cowl
when I apply the NO. Sounds like something you should have, Ken. Although
you might want to switch to the closed deck EJ turbo block. Didn't those
things put out over 400 hp when racing?

Walter

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Garry Wright · Post by **Garry Wright** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:56 pm

Ken,

Can you point out some links with useful info on this idea? Being at
chronically high altitude that notion is potentially attractive to me.

Garry

Ken wrote:

Sounds like a very well matched prop.
I'll bet the vibration is impressive from a 4 cyl. XP400 !
You don't want to just try an $800. nitrous kit to get 40 hp when you go
to the little high lakes on your existing engine eh? That would totally
eliminate the need for a CS prop.
And you'd have the option of leaving the 15 lb. bottle at home when you
don't need it ;)

Ken

Walter Klatt wrote:

Constant speed won't do much for me on my floatplane Rebel. It is too slow.
CS helps most with faster airplanes like RVs because with fixed pitch they
are usually pretty coarse to optimize high cruise speed, and then can't turn
very high rpm for take-off.

With my Sensenich, I turn 2500 rpm on take-off, and top out at 2720 at WOT
straight and level, so it is very well matched. At 2500 full throttle
take-off rpm, it is producing 140 hp, only 10 less than full rated 150 hp
for my engine. That is according to the Lycoming published power charts.

So 25 more pounds (or more) for a constant speed, would only give me about
10 more hp on a floatplane Rebel. The XP400 for those same 25 pounds has 40
more hp (220) than the XP360 (180), and you can go all the way to 250 hp
with high compression pistons, still at the same weight (310 pounds),
according to their website. So it sounds to me like a pretty hot machine.

Only problem is that the XP400 costs about 8 grand more than the XP360.

Walter

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Jesse Jenks · Post by **Jesse Jenks** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:56 pm

Hey guys,
The guy who overhauled my O-320 here in California has designed a stroker engine using I think an O-360 case and crank with custom rods. He has one on his Starduster and claims over 200 hp at less weight than a 360. He is a genius, but does not do the marketing thing. He built the O-200 for the original Nemesis Formula 1 Reno racer, which still holds the speed record for that class, set years ago. If anyone is interested, PM me and I will give you his phone #. He doesn't do the computer thing either.
Jesse

Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:05:59 -0700
From: Walter.Klatt@shaw.ca
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Engine for sale
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com

Had a good look at the XP400 engine, and if I had an Elite floatplane, this
would be the engine I would be going for. It is only 25 pounds more than the
XP360, but gives you 220 hp. You can get a high compression version all the
way up to 250 hp, which might be good for a Yukon or Super Rebel.

I would put it in my Rebel too, if I knew it wouldn't tear off my tail.

Walter

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No, the 390/400 are the angle valve versions which are heavier.

Walter

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Dalgleish
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 7:18 PM
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OK I thought all the parallel valve engines were more or less the same
weight. I'm sure whatever you choose will work. At Oshkosh several years
ago I saw a subaru powered rebel that was over 1100lbs. enpty on wheels. If
you can deal with Wayne Juniper at TC from out west go for it. My mistake
was asking the London TC office for advice they started a file on my plane
right away and I was married to them for the duration of the engine swap.

At 07:03 PM 9/20/2007 -0700, you wrote:
You know I haven't ruled that out yet... ;>) The 390/400 are about 50
pounds
more as I understand it. But heck, saw Dick's Rebel in Arlington this
summer
with the 210 hp 6 cylinder 0360 Cont. Don't think that is any heavier than
the 390/400's. He did have a pretty big battery way back there in the tail,
though.

The other option is a "stroker" 360 (sort of like the ECI 340) for about
200
hp, but same weight and dimensions as the parallel valve 360. But it
requires a special crankshaft, and would definitely be a one-of.

However, don't want to lose my tail either...

Will have to review again your dealings with TC and the engine change.
Would
prefer to just send them a letter after the fact telling them of the
change,
and giving them a new weight and balance, and with new climb tests.

Walter

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Dalgleish
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 6:42 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Engine for sale

ONLY a 360 Walter?? I thought by now you'd be lusting for an 0-390 or 400
after all they're the same weight and surely those high mountain lakes must
make it tempting. ;o

At 05:55 PM 9/20/2007 -0700, you wrote:
Well, I've been talking about upgrading my 0320 to an 0360 on my Rebel
floatplane for a couple years. So now that our previously much maligned
loonie is looking at the once mighty greenback square in the eyes, I think
the time has come. I have already picked out my new Lycoming clone engine
complete with roller tappets and electronic ignition, and am ready to
place
the order.

That means that I will be putting my current 0320 engine up for sale. It
has
about 470 hours since overhaul and is working very well. And those that
know
my plane and have flown with me, also know that it is a strong engine and
performs very well. It is the conical mount 150 hp version with Bendix
mags
and lightweight SkyTec starter. Baffles go with it, too, and might even
include the cowl if I need a new one for the 0360.

I will also be selling my prop, either separately or with the engine. It
is
a 74 X 54 metal Sensenich and is very well matched for this engine and the
Rebel on floats. Should work well on wheels, too, if you're looking for
rocket like performance. And now that I think about it, won't be needing
my
3 blade 72 inch Warp prop anymore either. It is ground adjustable and
worked
very well on wheels with this engine.

So if you are looking for a low time, running engine with a known history
and/or a prop, let's make a deal. I will sell it for whatever I can get,
and
am open to offers. If you are within range of Vancouver BC, and I still
have
it on the plane, I can take you up for a ride, too. But the early worm
gets
the fish.

Send me a private email if you are interested, and we can talk.

Walter

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More photos; more messages; more whatever

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:56 pm

Garry
A quick google only came up with an entertaining story
http://www.avionicswest.com/myviewpoint/noairplane.html
I have heard stories for years about nitrous on floats but the only web
references that I see are for racing and climb records which are likely
highly modified engines.
Ken

Garry Wright wrote:

Ken,

Can you point out some links with useful info on this idea? Being at
chronically high altitude that notion is potentially attractive to me.

Garry

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Garry Wright · Post by **Garry Wright** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:56 pm

I had the same experience. Nobody seems to do it for float operations
but it does seeem logical.....the nitrous might even for a few takeoffs.
Not sure what you would do when you landed on a short pond and found the
bottle empty.... :)

Garry

Ken wrote:

Garry
A quick google only came up with an entertaining story
http://www.avionicswest.com/myviewpoint/noairplane.html
I have heard stories for years about nitrous on floats but the only web
references that I see are for racing and climb records which are likely
highly modified engines.
Ken

Garry Wright wrote:

Ken,

Can you point out some links with useful info on this idea? Being at
chronically high altitude that notion is potentially attractive to me.

Garry

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Dale Fultz · Post by **Dale Fultz** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:56 pm

Ken, contact Al Phaxia he has nitrous on his Super Rebel,, to use when on
floats if he has to. He could probably lead you in the right direction..
Dale N269DF
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Ken · Post by **Ken** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:56 pm

Thanks Dale. Actually it's Garry that is more interested in this for his
Lyc. but I'm sure he appreciates the lead.

I can just bolt a stock Honda street racing kit onto my soob but I'd
guess it would not be difficult to adapt a Chev V-8 kit to a Lyc. Garry
I was going to use a standard 10 lb bottle and my fuzzy memory thinks
the ballpark figure was something like a total of 10 minutes at the 40
hp rate which could be 10 to 20 takeoffs.

Ken

Dale Fultz wrote:

Ken, contact Al Phaxia he has nitrous on his Super Rebel,, to use when on
floats if he has to. He could probably lead you in the right direction..
Dale N269DF

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Drew Dalgleish · Post by **Drew Dalgleish** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:56 pm

At 01:06 PM 9/23/2007 -0400, you wrote:

Ken, contact Al Phaxia he has nitrous on his Super Rebel,, to use when on
floats if he has to. He could probably lead you in the right direction..
Dale N269DF
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As of last summer Al still hdn't tried out his NO setup. I don't know how
he resists just pushing the button once.
Drew

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Robert Andrews · Post by **Robert Andrews** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:56 pm

Hi Al ... PLEASE push "THE BUTTON" ... just once? ... for just like a second
or two? You really should test it to make sure it works you know. What if
it doesn't work when you really need it? ... that would sure be a bummer.
Wouldn't you rather know for sure that it works as you expcet ... like now,
rather then learn it doesn't work when you really need it? I know I've
pestered you enough about this ... but really, think about it at least ...
ok?

Cheers,

Bob 612e

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At 01:06 PM 9/23/2007 -0400, you wrote:

Ken, contact Al Phaxia he has nitrous on his Super Rebel,, to use when on
floats if he has to. He could probably lead you in the right direction..
Dale N269DF
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As of last summer Al still hdn't tried out his NO setup. I don't know how
he resists just pushing the button once.
Drew

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Walter Klatt · Post by **Walter Klatt** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:56 pm

Drew, when you got your XP engine, did you get the straight spin on filter
or the angle type. Am just wondering which one fits better on the Rebel.

Walter

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I was just joking Walter but it sounds like you've got it all figured out.
The one thing I should have bought with my engine but didn't is the roller
cam.

At 08:00 PM 9/22/2007 -0700, you wrote:

Constant speed won't do much for me on my floatplane Rebel. It is too slow.
CS helps most with faster airplanes like RVs because with fixed pitch they
are usually pretty coarse to optimize high cruise speed, and then can't

turn

very high rpm for take-off.

With my Sensenich, I turn 2500 rpm on take-off, and top out at 2720 at WOT
straight and level, so it is very well matched. At 2500 full throttle
take-off rpm, it is producing 140 hp, only 10 less than full rated 150 hp
for my engine. That is according to the Lycoming published power charts.

So 25 more pounds (or more) for a constant speed, would only give me about
10 more hp on a floatplane Rebel. The XP400 for those same 25 pounds has 40
more hp (220) than the XP360 (180), and you can go all the way to 250 hp
with high compression pistons, still at the same weight (310 pounds),
according to their website. So it sounds to me like a pretty hot machine.

Only problem is that the XP400 costs about 8 grand more than the XP360.

Walter

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With all the weight you save by not putting on an XP400 you could go for a
constant speed prop. :)

Drew

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