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David Ricker

Thank you Canada + One Canadian Story

Post by David Ricker » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:17 pm

Dean, Rick & All

I am sitting here trying to find the right words to say from the Canadian point
of view but the enormity of the events of the last few days is hard to
comprehend let alone put down in a few words. I think this is larger than
national boundaries and I am sure Canadians look upon it as being a good
neighbour and doing the right thing. I am sure it would be the same if the
roles were reversed.

Reading Rick's friends' message is chilling though because I had not heard a
first hand account like this nor had I put myself in their position to imagine
what it was like. Hard to picture being "isolated" in an airliner hours away
from land hearing what was happening to your colleagues and not knowing for
certain what else was transpiring. The image of being ID'd by the fighters on
the way home shows how serious the authorities are taking the situation, I had
not heard that this was happening but I am not surprised either.

I think the Canadian reaction to the closure of American airspace was the only
correct option possible even though there may have been some risk associated
with it. At some point you have to consider what doing the right thing to help
your neighbour means and that accept it isn't necessarily the easy thing to do.

On the aviation side and from my own local point of view of the story, the
thing I am struck with is how well the diverted passengers took the
inconvenience and perhaps even more, how the local communities who hosted these
people responded given the numbers involved. In my local area, Halifax, Nova
Scotia, the press is saying we hosted the largest number of travelers, about
9,000 from 44 aircraft. We have two runways at YHZ, Halifax International, one
was shut down and aircraft were parked wing to wing and nose to tail, I have
never seen anything like it. Other airports like Gander & St. Johns had their
share also, I believe Gander had more visitors than residents.

The response from the local volunteer organizations and the general public was
phenomenal, sports arenas, university residences & schools were transformed
into dormitories and after a short period, the Red Cross who was managing
things, had to turn down offers from the public to host visitors in their homes
because everyone who wanted was placed! Food and supplies came out of the
woodwork, right down to toothbrushes and prescriptions. Students and staff
from a local chef program set up a kitchen on at least one site and prepared
meals for the visitors including special meals for those on restricted diets
for medical or religious reasons. Translators were found to assist people who
didn't speak English and in this my spouse and I were fortunate to be able to
play a small role with a few visitors from Italy since we had learned that
language when we lived there there a few years ago.

At my office they told me to take as much time as I needed and many of the
people there also have made arrangements to donate blood when the Red Cross can
catch up with the rush. This has really touched so many people.

There have been so many positive stories that have come fom this that have
either shown the good fortune of the lucky ones who escaped the events or told
about those that have risen to the events and helped their fellow man.

Well, I guess it is time to quit the rambling & get on to other things, just
wanted to say to Dean, Rick & everyone from the USA and all of our visitors you
are welcome for the small part I could play, I am sure all of the people who
volenteered or played even a small role in this would feel the same way.

Dave R.
Elite 583

PS Another side effect of all this has just turned up, a friend of mine just
called to tell me to go buy gas as the price is going up tonight, rumor has it
that it will hit $US3.32 (from $US 2.00) a US gal in the morning! Great,
someone is going to make a bundle off of this.....



Dean Billing wrote:
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I would like to add to the thanks that Rick DeCierro extended to our
Canadian neighbors. This is a message that I received from a friend of
mine and fellow pilot, a 747-400 Captain for United:
Dear Friends,

I want to thank all of you that called or sent messages to the house
expressing concern for my safety during the recent terrorist attacks on
our country.

I was enroute from Tokyo's Narita Airport to Los Angeles International
about 6 hours into a 10 hour flight when we received the following
message
over our data link system:

UA890 NRTLAX
- MESSAGE FROM CHIDD -
THERE HAS BEEN
A TERRORIST ATTACK
AGAINST UAL AND AAL
AIRCRAFT. WE ARE
ADVD THERE MAY BE ADDTL
HIJACKINGS IN PROGRESS.

SHUT DOWN ALL ACCESS
TO FLIGHT DECK.

UNABLE TO ELABORATE FURTHER.

CHIDD A BAUMBARDT

This was the first indication we had of problem, but it was followed by
many communications from United dispatch and we also received a lot of
information from the pilot to pilot communication frequency as other
airlines received information from their companies. Among the messages
we
received, we were notified that all US airspace was closed and we would
be
landing somewhere other than the United States.

In about an hour we received word that we were to divert our flight to
Vancouver, BC. We requested a clearance "Present position, direct
Vancouver." We received a clearance over the data link to "Climb and
maintain FL380, when level FL380, cleared direct Vancouver", via
several
lat/long fixes and a gateway fix into Vancouver airspace. We were
requested to send a position report directly to dispatch every 15
minutes
for search and rescue co-ordination.

The clearance we received cut across about a 50 mile little corner of
US
airspace, but as we approached the US boundary we were given headings
so
as not to enter US airspace. We were the 5th international jumbo jet
to
arrive in Vancouver, and they kept coming and coming until there were
about a couple dozen jumbos on the ground in Vancouver.

We did not tell the passengers or the flight attendants what we were
doing
or where we were going until we were on the ground in Vancouver. The
flight attendants were told about an hour out that we were going to
land
in a place other than the US. We had to assume we had terrorists
aboard
our airplane and did not want to tip them off that our destination had
changed.
It took us about 2 hours to get a gate and about 3 hours to get off the
airplane. When they began to deplane the passengers, they took 20 at a
time into the jetway, where they were sniffed by dogs, patted down, and
all their carry on baggage was hand searched. Then they had to go
through
immigration and customs. The same for all the crew, I had two
co-pilots
and 17 flight attendants.

The passengers were told of the terrorist attacks once we got the
aircraft
parked well away from the terminal and I put the local broadcast
station
on the entertainment system so they could listen to the news reports
first
hand. The passengers were great!

We were very fortunate that United had taken the initiative to book
hotel
rooms for all of the crews, but there was so much confusion we went to
three hotels where these reservations had been made before we were able
to
get rooms. I was up 30 hours before I went to bed on the 11th.

None of us saw any of the video until we got to the hotel. I guess I
don't have to tell you the emotion we felt as we saw one of our own
planes, one like I flew for 5 years, slamming into the World Trade
Center.
I want to tell all of you how wonderful the Canadian people were to
us. They are just as devastated as you and I are about these acts and
they were so concerned and compassionate for our country and our
personal
loss of colleagues. There were many more people in Vancouver than
hotel
rooms available require many strangers to double up and over 4,000
wonderful Canadians opened their homes to complete strangers.

Leaving Canada, only the inbound crew was allowed on the airplane, no
deadheaders, no SA's, no jumpseaters, no cargo or baggage was
allowed. All of us went through the standard metal detectors, we
individually searched and all our baggage and flight bags were hand
searched. They even took away my plastic disposable razors. The
airplane
had been searched by 3 different organizations on three separate times
including dogs before it was cleared for flight. Once the security
requirements were met we received our clearance and departed for the
US. On crossing the US/Canadian border our airplane was intercepted
by a
US fighter aircraft and identified as friend or foe. Approaching the
Los
Angeles area we were intercepted another time and reidentified.

It is great to be home and it is great to be an American. I really
believe, if the Canadians are any example and from what I saw happening
in
Europe this morning on TV where the United States National Anthem was
played at the changing of the guard at Buckingham Palace for the first
time ever, we are definitely not in this alone. Our friends are there
for
us this time.
...
In hindsight I must say that I think our Canadian friends took a
tremendous risk allowing these jumbos to head towards Canada and land.
If one of them had been hijacked, they would have become the target.

Thanks again -- Dean #452-ReB

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David A. Ricker P. Eng.
DARTEC Engineering Inc.
3 Tamarac Drive
Fall River, Nova Scotia
Canada, B2T 1E8
ricker@dbis.ns.ca
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Warren T. Montgomery

Thank you Canada + One Canadian Story

Post by Warren T. Montgomery » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:17 pm

For those of you I haven't met I'm building an SR in Dubai, United Arab
Emirates, one of only three countries to have recognized the Taliban.
Closer to home I'm a Canadian B777 Captain & Flight Safety Officer with
Emirates.
Our two children attend the American school here and my wife works
there. (The Taliban has scuds)

At the time of the first strike I was just preparing for departure from
Hong Kong to Bangkok. As passengers boarded we heard of an aircraft that
had impacted the WTC. We quickly tuned into a local AM station on the
trusty old ADFs, yes the 777 still has them, now I know why. We then
heard the events unfold live. At first, when we heard of the strike we
thought maybe a midair. Then thoughts went to a light aircraft possibly
with explosives and what energy would be required to do any significant
damage. When word came through it was a 767 or 757 it was unbelievable.
In fact we still couldn't believe it was intentional until the third
aircraft hit the WTC 18 min later. We continued to monitor as well as
prepare for departure. It was hard to stay focused on the job at hand,
but with 400+ passengers we had to get on with the task. At the time I
was more concerned with my own performance and staying focused (HKG is
not a place to let your guard down) then with a threat to us. None of us
could have imagined how events would unfold. Once settled into cruise we
picked up Voice of America on HF and were in contact with the company on
ACARS and continued to monitor live.

We're all still in shock and greatly saddened by the events. In addition
to the 100s of Canadian pilots I know, I have friends both at UA, AA and
contacts in NY. Although everything is calm here, I can't say what the
underlining sentiment is as all communication is monitored.

This will be our third conflict in the Gulf (Should have stayed in the
Canadian Forces, it was safer) We don't intend to leave anytime soon but
only time will tell how events unfold. The SR is still a year+ away from
flight so can't even use that as a back up. This has certainly changed
our outlook on the future and brought our priorities into check. It's
been a hell of a price to pay but I believe the world will be a safer
place for it.

--
Warren T. Montgomery
<monty@emirates.net.ae>
Dubai, United Arab Emirates



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