[rebel-builders] Adjusting Aileron/Flaps

[WALTER KLATT]

Yeah, I get a bit spoiled here with sea level performance. But I remember well some of my past XC's with the 320, as it would struggle at 10K in the mountains, and my IAS spent more time around 90 mph instead of 100 at sea level. But even with that engine, it did well in reflex at closer to sea level altitudes.

Walter

----- Original Message -----
From: Garry Wright <wright.garry30@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:27 am
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Adjusting Aileron/Flaps
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com

Yes - 80 mph CAS is about the lower limit for reflex and I think
most
rebels experience that. Certainly mine and John Petersons were
similar.
At higher altitudes like above 4000', 80 mph CAS requires more
than 2350
rpm on an O320. At sea level, 80 mph is still a low rpm exercise.

Garry

WALTER KLATT wrote:

I can go surprisingly slow with my reflex, down to near 80 mph

if I am not too heavy. I often do slow cruises around the lake
when taking people for rides, between 80 and 90 mph, and burn as
low as 5 US gph. At some point, though, as I slow down, the nose
starts to rise, and I have to put it into neutral. I immediately
lose a few mph then, and have to increase throttle to maintain
speed. It may be that the VGs help here, too. Can't remember,
though, how slow I could go in reflex before I had them.

Again, I have no problems in crosswinds now that I have the

VGs. They also really help with float ops, as do the full span
flaperons. Float angle is important too, and take off technique
may have to vary a bit depending on weight and hp.

Ken, don't know if you still lay over in Vancouver sometimes.

But you should come for a flight with me. My plane is quite
different than yours, and it might interesting to compare as you
continue to refine yours.

Walter

----- Original Message -----
From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:50 am
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Adjusting Aileron/Flaps
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com

Yes Steve can drop flaps and ailerons independently.

I might be seeing a similar power thing as you in that I'm
likely
turning the Warp slower than it was really designed

for.

But it is nice
and quiet.

Ken

Garry Wright wrote:
adjustments.>
lots of wind
and

to

7.3 gph
rpm to about
effectively

installed

one and

higher

rpm
allows full

want

to give up
be tricky.
ailerons

max

flaperon
knots or
inch on the

the

wing in
matter of
adjust things.
it doesn't
sideways it
possible but

rarely

use reflex

3

blade Warp
on, the more
and roll the

engine

torque,
means that I
deflection
flaps as long
That would
deflection and

sure

the teleflex

and

it is a
flight that
loaded then

has

answered
do remember
only apply if
would be offset a
bellcrank. My
it takes firm
flaperons are down.
move the
That's my

half

inch is not

be

annoying when
probably

sure

the teleflex
them with the
anywhere near full
could contribute to
properly rigged. I
still a head
in the fuselage are
figure out what to

crank

was a BIG surprise

the

mixer bell crank

installed

backwards. I
pattern and you are
1/8" different in
is a factor in the

it

go? Was there
missed? I guess it
time and head aches

bell

cranks effect on

rudder

cables. I would

in

slightly>>>>>> different positions or the horns on the torque
tube riveted on in

may

have to live
aileron horns will

bellcrank

is backwards.

to

install it

on

the elevator
hesitant to make
Teleflex cable

location

from 2-3/8" to

(16.7

[Ralph Baker]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Micheal" <westcoastkitplanes@gmail.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Adjusting Aileron/Flaps

Hello Charlie,

Sorry I mislead you in the measurements, I should of chosen my words
differently. The measurements I had given are not C to C, but measured

from

center line. I will send you my hand drawing of the part (CC-48-2) and

its

correct placement as installed in the AC.

Cheers,
Jeff


On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Charlie Eubanks

<charlie@troyairpark.com>wrote:

Hello Jeff

I have seen your name quite often as of late and you have been very

helpful

and right on top of things. Are you the same Jeff that is with Murphy?
Either way I sure appreciate your help. I am still a little confused. I
reversed the mixer bell crank and there are considerable differences in

the

control dimension I found.

I just measured the hole pattern of the mixer bell crank that I have and

I

hope I can clearly describe the dimensions I found.

From the center of the large 1" hole to the center of each