[rebel-builders] N645E Elite Amphib First Flight

Mike Davis · Post by **Mike Davis** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:02 pm

Congrats Eric! Great video.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Fogelin" <elist@whidbey.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:06 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] N645E Elite Amphib First Flight

I'm proud to announce first flight of my Elite on 1800 amphibs this past
Sunday, October 26. Second flight was Monday, and third flight was today
on
Tuesday.

I did some taxi tests on conventional gear, but first flight in the plane
was on amphibs from our 2400 foot paved runway in the woods on Whidbey
Island, Washington State, W10.

YouTube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7yZ2g07pFI

This was a big project and I couldn't be happier. The plane immediately
felt
very safe in flight. It has good, conservative flying attributes. It also
is
very light, hops in the air, climbs incredibly, and lands nice and slow.
Very nice light control feel. Stable.

I don't have reliable numbers. After first flight, I felt it took 2 feet
for
takeoff, 4 feet for landing and roll out. After third flight and much
clearer observation it is an easy 500ft takeoff and 900 foot landing with
roll out. In other words, the Amphib Elite would be comfortable on half of
our 2400 foot airstrip in the woods. I'm 200lbs, half tanks and an empty
weight of 1320lbs. Floats are painted, interior is painted, exterior of
plane is not painted yet (plane will gain some weight).

Power: Superior XP-O-360 180HP, constant speed 2-blade MT-propeller.

Climb seems to be about 1200-1300fpm at 70-80kts. Cruise at 75% power
wheels
up indicates 100kts, TAS 108kts. Approach needs to be 65+kts on short
final,
maybe a tad more, more with higher weights? First notch of flaps is easy
to
put in at less than 100kts. Second notch at below 80kts. Haven't used much
more flap, but don't see the need for the very long Murphy flap handle.
More
data later.

Many, many thanks to everyone on this list. The wealth of information has
been critical to the success of this project. I hope to contribute more to
the list now that I know that my project is a success. Yes, this is the
first airplane I have built.

Cheers,

Eric Fogelin
Elite 645

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N.Smith · Post by **N.Smith** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:02 pm

Great Eric, congratulations. Thanks for the video - wonderful
Nigel
745E
Still building, awaiting MAM amphib's to be sealed.

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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Eric
Fogelin
Sent: 29 October 2008 05:07
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] N645E Elite Amphib First Flight

I'm proud to announce first flight of my Elite on 1800 amphibs this past
Sunday, October 26. Second flight was Monday, and third flight was today on
Tuesday.

I did some taxi tests on conventional gear, but first flight in the plane
was on amphibs from our 2400 foot paved runway in the woods on Whidbey
Island, Washington State, W10.

YouTube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7yZ2g07pFI

This was a big project and I couldn't be happier. The plane immediately felt
very safe in flight. It has good, conservative flying attributes. It also is
very light, hops in the air, climbs incredibly, and lands nice and slow.
Very nice light control feel. Stable.

I don't have reliable numbers. After first flight, I felt it took 2 feet for
takeoff, 4 feet for landing and roll out. After third flight and much
clearer observation it is an easy 500ft takeoff and 900 foot landing with
roll out. In other words, the Amphib Elite would be comfortable on half of
our 2400 foot airstrip in the woods. I'm 200lbs, half tanks and an empty
weight of 1320lbs. Floats are painted, interior is painted, exterior of
plane is not painted yet (plane will gain some weight).

Power: Superior XP-O-360 180HP, constant speed 2-blade MT-propeller.

Climb seems to be about 1200-1300fpm at 70-80kts. Cruise at 75% power wheels
up indicates 100kts, TAS 108kts. Approach needs to be 65+kts on short final,
maybe a tad more, more with higher weights? First notch of flaps is easy to
put in at less than 100kts. Second notch at below 80kts. Haven't used much
more flap, but don't see the need for the very long Murphy flap handle. More
data later.

Many, many thanks to everyone on this list. The wealth of information has
been critical to the success of this project. I hope to contribute more to
the list now that I know that my project is a success. Yes, this is the
first airplane I have built.

Cheers,

Eric Fogelin
Elite 645

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NormIsler · Post by **NormIsler** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:02 pm

Eric

The Elite looks great!

Congrats on first flight.

Keep us posted on the flight testing.

Meanwhile, I am back to pulling rivets!

Yea, I know. "It is worth it!"

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Elite 702E

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Walter Klatt · Post by **Walter Klatt** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:02 pm

Congrats, Eric, good to see another amphib flying, and right in my own
backyard, too.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of Eric
Fogelin
Sent: October 28, 2008 10:07 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] N645E Elite Amphib First Flight

I'm proud to announce first flight of my Elite on 1800 amphibs this past
Sunday, October 26. Second flight was Monday, and third flight was today on
Tuesday.

I did some taxi tests on conventional gear, but first flight in the plane
was on amphibs from our 2400 foot paved runway in the woods on Whidbey
Island, Washington State, W10.

YouTube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7yZ2g07pFI

This was a big project and I couldn't be happier. The plane immediately felt
very safe in flight. It has good, conservative flying attributes. It also is
very light, hops in the air, climbs incredibly, and lands nice and slow.
Very nice light control feel. Stable.

I don't have reliable numbers. After first flight, I felt it took 2 feet for
takeoff, 4 feet for landing and roll out. After third flight and much
clearer observation it is an easy 500ft takeoff and 900 foot landing with
roll out. In other words, the Amphib Elite would be comfortable on half of
our 2400 foot airstrip in the woods. I'm 200lbs, half tanks and an empty
weight of 1320lbs. Floats are painted, interior is painted, exterior of
plane is not painted yet (plane will gain some weight).

Power: Superior XP-O-360 180HP, constant speed 2-blade MT-propeller.

Climb seems to be about 1200-1300fpm at 70-80kts. Cruise at 75% power wheels
up indicates 100kts, TAS 108kts. Approach needs to be 65+kts on short final,
maybe a tad more, more with higher weights? First notch of flaps is easy to
put in at less than 100kts. Second notch at below 80kts. Haven't used much
more flap, but don't see the need for the very long Murphy flap handle. More
data later.

Many, many thanks to everyone on this list. The wealth of information has
been critical to the success of this project. I hope to contribute more to
the list now that I know that my project is a success. Yes, this is the
first airplane I have built.

Cheers,

Eric Fogelin
Elite 645

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Jim Cole · Post by **Jim Cole** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:02 pm

Good work Eric - The video is great inspiration and of course I had to watch
a number of the related videos as well. Not getting much work done this
morning - just dreaming about the amphibs!!!!
Nice to see Ron and Gary again as well.
(the old Gary - the new one is much slimmer & trimmer!)

Cheers
Jim R333

On 10/29/2008 12:06 AM, "Eric Fogelin" <elist@whidbey.com> wrote:

I'm proud to announce first flight of my Elite on 1800 amphibs this past
Sunday, October 26. Second flight was Monday, and third flight was today on
Tuesday.

I did some taxi tests on conventional gear, but first flight in the plane
was on amphibs from our 2400 foot paved runway in the woods on Whidbey
Island, Washington State, W10.

YouTube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7yZ2g07pFI

This was a big project and I couldn't be happier. The plane immediately felt
very safe in flight. It has good, conservative flying attributes. It also is
very light, hops in the air, climbs incredibly, and lands nice and slow.
Very nice light control feel. Stable.

I don't have reliable numbers. After first flight, I felt it took 2 feet for
takeoff, 4 feet for landing and roll out. After third flight and much
clearer observation it is an easy 500ft takeoff and 900 foot landing with
roll out. In other words, the Amphib Elite would be comfortable on half of
our 2400 foot airstrip in the woods. I'm 200lbs, half tanks and an empty
weight of 1320lbs. Floats are painted, interior is painted, exterior of
plane is not painted yet (plane will gain some weight).

Power: Superior XP-O-360 180HP, constant speed 2-blade MT-propeller.

Climb seems to be about 1200-1300fpm at 70-80kts. Cruise at 75% power wheels
up indicates 100kts, TAS 108kts. Approach needs to be 65+kts on short final,
maybe a tad more, more with higher weights? First notch of flaps is easy to
put in at less than 100kts. Second notch at below 80kts. Haven't used much
more flap, but don't see the need for the very long Murphy flap handle. More
data later.

Many, many thanks to everyone on this list. The wealth of information has
been critical to the success of this project. I hope to contribute more to
the list now that I know that my project is a success. Yes, this is the
first airplane I have built.

Cheers,

Eric Fogelin
Elite 645

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Bob Patterson · Post by **Bob Patterson** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:02 pm

Congratulations Eric !

Great video ! Like Jim, I had to watch a few other related
videos ..... ;-) It's going to be a looooong winter ! :-(

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On Wednesday 29 October 2008 05:06, Eric Fogelin wrote:

I'm proud to announce first flight of my Elite on 1800 amphibs this past
Sunday, October 26. Second flight was Monday, and third flight was today
on Tuesday.

I did some taxi tests on conventional gear, but first flight in the plane
was on amphibs from our 2400 foot paved runway in the woods on Whidbey
Island, Washington State, W10.

YouTube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7yZ2g07pFI

This was a big project and I couldn't be happier. The plane immediately
felt very safe in flight. It has good, conservative flying attributes. It
also is very light, hops in the air, climbs incredibly, and lands nice and
slow. Very nice light control feel. Stable.

I don't have reliable numbers. After first flight, I felt it took 2 feet
for takeoff, 4 feet for landing and roll out. After third flight and much
clearer observation it is an easy 500ft takeoff and 900 foot landing with
roll out. In other words, the Amphib Elite would be comfortable on half of
our 2400 foot airstrip in the woods. I'm 200lbs, half tanks and an empty
weight of 1320lbs. Floats are painted, interior is painted, exterior of
plane is not painted yet (plane will gain some weight).

Power: Superior XP-O-360 180HP, constant speed 2-blade MT-propeller.

Climb seems to be about 1200-1300fpm at 70-80kts. Cruise at 75% power
wheels up indicates 100kts, TAS 108kts. Approach needs to be 65+kts on
short final, maybe a tad more, more with higher weights? First notch of
flaps is easy to put in at less than 100kts. Second notch at below 80kts.
Haven't used much more flap, but don't see the need for the very long
Murphy flap handle. More data later.

Many, many thanks to everyone on this list. The wealth of information has
been critical to the success of this project. I hope to contribute more to
the list now that I know that my project is a success. Yes, this is the
first airplane I have built.

Cheers,

Eric Fogelin
Elite 645

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