Elite 583s, Was: RE: [rebel-builders] Ali firewall thickness

[David Ricker]

Not saying it couldn't be either since 583 is one of the earliest
Elites and the
paper trail at MAM may not be bulletproof!

Cheers,

Dave



Quoting "N.Smith" <admin@airnig.co.uk>:

Hi Dave....ok, maybe not then.....I'll check it up today :-)
Nig
745E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Dave Ricker
Sent: 30 March 2007 01:07
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Ali firewall thickness ?


Nigel

Are you sure your other UK Elite is 583? We've been beavering away (well,
slowly..) on 583E since early '97.

See it at www.elite583.cjb.net

Cheers,

Dave

"N.Smith" wrote:

Thanks Guys
That's just what I was after. The other Elite in the UK (583E) was shipped
with an ali firewall and I think they were checking to see if mine was ali
as well!
I'm sure the stainless I have with Wayne's firewall plates will keep them
happy.
Thanks again for the replies.
Nig
745E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Robert Johnson
Sent: 29 March 2007 20:13
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: [rebel-builders] Ali firewall thickness ?

Hi Nig: I also have the alum firewall at .032 thickness. - Bob J Rebel
192/731
----- Original Message -----
From: "N.Smith" <admin@airnig.co.uk>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:26 PM
Subject: [rebel-builders] Ali firewall thickness ?

Hi all

Today's odd question from me ... anyone know the thickness of ali used

in

the old ali firewalls that used to be shipped with Rebel and Elite kits
before stainless was introduced ?

Just been asked by our PFA regulators for some reason (mine's stainless

so

not sure what they're up to!)

Many thanks

Nig
745E

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Walter Klatt
Sent: 29 March 2007 15:19
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: RE: [rebel-builders] Airplane ceiling


Here's how I fly mine in the mountains (also this way in the flat lands

if

conditions are right), when I am on a trip. This is with a 150 hp 0320
amphib Rebel. If I am going east, meaning there will likely be a good
tailwind up high, I will just keep it full throttle from take-off to
descent
for landing. Of course this assumes no cloud ceilings. On climb out, I
start
leaning around 5000 ASL. When I am around 8000, I am fully leaned out,

and

keep adjusting it for best power and economy (I also have a fuel monitor
and
engine 4 EGT/CHT monitor) as I keep climbing. Once I get over 10,000, I

am

very much at the mercy of the updrafts and downdrafts, and hard to hold

a

constant altitude. I try to keep to the east/west cruising altitudes,

but

when you are going past peaks that reach 12,000, that isn't your primary
objective. It's not uncommon to be at 10,500 and 15 minutes later be at
12,000, then back down to 10,500 15 minutes after that. Bear in mind,

that

you are supposed to carry oxygen if you are up there more than 1/2 hour.

Going west is an entirely different matter. Of course, before any cross
country flight, I get a weather briefing and take careful note of the
winds
at different altitudes. But generally, I do an initial climb to fairly
high
just to confirm the winds, and then just use general mountain flying
techniques to figure out where the best winds and lift are. The big
difference though, is that you don't go any higher than necessary, to
avoid
the open head winds. It's sometimes surprising how you can find a tail
wind
lower down in a valley when you would have a headwind up high.

If you google Mountain Flying, you will find some good books by Sparky
Imeson that I would highly recommend.

So with your 0360 Elite on wheels, I am quite sure that you will just be
limited by oxygen, not your airplane ceiling. But you should be able to
get
some pretty decent cruise speeds up there, if you keep it WOT.

Walter

-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
michael betti
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 6:46 AM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: [rebel-builders] Airplane ceiling

Builders and pilots,
Any body have a feel for what the expected operating ceiling of my
Elite is? I'm sure many of you out there get alot of practice around
those mountains. Around here it's just hills. I hope to travel out west
in the future so I need to learn some limits. Is there some sort of
procedure for climbing beyond say 10,000', like leaning during climb?
Thanks,
Mike Betti
N771ME



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