After flying the Moose 150 hours I thought I could demonstrate a stall and
steep turns fairly reasonably. Today I was schooled on how to really fly a
Moose. A retired airline pilot and instructor gave me a real demo - man -
the moose is a sweet plane! Of course planes always fly better on cold
days, and sea level helps too!
Any one who is getting a little bogged down building, let this be an
encouragement to you - it is worth every minute of it!
Ryan - SR157
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How to fly a Moose
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Ted Waltman
How to fly a Moose
Ryan,
I'd sure be interested in a lot of details regarding your
flight...airspeeds, power settings, tips, tricks....
I played around with various power settings for approach with full flaps
the other day. Seems that with prop full "in" (flat pitch of course),
full flaps and 12" at 70k indicated I'm dropping about 150'/min; At 65k
about 250'/min. Seems to want to stall, or at least get really mushy,
at slightly less than 60k indicated.
My goal is to consistently land in less than 1,000'. Keeping it nailed
at 70k on final, I was still using probably 1,400 feet on grass/dirt. I
was varying the power level on this approach, so I can't say I had the
same attitude/ground speed as in the air.
Thoughts?
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From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Ryan Mowat
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 10:16 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: How to fly a Moose
After flying the Moose 150 hours I thought I could demonstrate a stall
and
steep turns fairly reasonably. Today I was schooled on how to really
fly a
Moose. A retired airline pilot and instructor gave me a real demo - man
-
the moose is a sweet plane! Of course planes always fly better on cold
days, and sea level helps too!
Any one who is getting a little bogged down building, let this be an
encouragement to you - it is worth every minute of it!
Ryan - SR157
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I'd sure be interested in a lot of details regarding your
flight...airspeeds, power settings, tips, tricks....
I played around with various power settings for approach with full flaps
the other day. Seems that with prop full "in" (flat pitch of course),
full flaps and 12" at 70k indicated I'm dropping about 150'/min; At 65k
about 250'/min. Seems to want to stall, or at least get really mushy,
at slightly less than 60k indicated.
My goal is to consistently land in less than 1,000'. Keeping it nailed
at 70k on final, I was still using probably 1,400 feet on grass/dirt. I
was varying the power level on this approach, so I can't say I had the
same attitude/ground speed as in the air.
Thoughts?
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Ryan Mowat
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 10:16 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: How to fly a Moose
After flying the Moose 150 hours I thought I could demonstrate a stall
and
steep turns fairly reasonably. Today I was schooled on how to really
fly a
Moose. A retired airline pilot and instructor gave me a real demo - man
-
the moose is a sweet plane! Of course planes always fly better on cold
days, and sea level helps too!
Any one who is getting a little bogged down building, let this be an
encouragement to you - it is worth every minute of it!
Ryan - SR157
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Ryan Mowat
How to fly a Moose
Ted,
It was the upper air work that was most exciting. 30 Degree banked
climbing stalls with 30" and 2400 rpm, both left and right - stall was
41-43 knots with 3400 lbs, cg was about 19". Plus we did 60 Degree bank
turns - something I have avoided since installing the floats.
This is with VG's and drooping wing tips and 28 Degrees up elevator.
The instructor that was with me was a retired Northwest Air pilot with
lots of float time. I measured the flaps to have 38 degrees droop and
ailerons droop 17 degrees at full deployment.
When I do a short landing I set up at 15-16" and 2400 rpm, at 80 knots 1
notch, under 70 knots 2 notches, and under 60 knots I go to full flaps,
do the final low approach at 55 knots and pull it back to 50 Knots down
low. With a little head wind it is stopped in less than 1000' with no
braking. Before the wing tips and VG's I could turn off at the 2000'
taxi way, but not with a lot of room to spare. We have a city airport
near hear with 2200' - It used to be tight without the VG's and tips.
Have you measured your flap deployment? Do you have the VG's on?
Ryan
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Ted Waltman
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 3:03 PM
To: Murphy List
Subject: RE: How to fly a Moose
Ryan,
I'd sure be interested in a lot of details regarding your
flight...airspeeds, power settings, tips, tricks....
I played around with various power settings for approach with full flaps
the other day. Seems that with prop full "in" (flat pitch of course),
full flaps and 12" at 70k indicated I'm dropping about 150'/min; At 65k
about 250'/min. Seems to want to stall, or at least get really mushy,
at slightly less than 60k indicated.
My goal is to consistently land in less than 1,000'. Keeping it nailed
at 70k on final, I was still using probably 1,400 feet on grass/dirt. I
was varying the power level on this approach, so I can't say I had the
same attitude/ground speed as in the air.
Thoughts?
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Ryan Mowat
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 10:16 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: How to fly a Moose
After flying the Moose 150 hours I thought I could demonstrate a stall
and
steep turns fairly reasonably. Today I was schooled on how to really
fly a
Moose. A retired airline pilot and instructor gave me a real demo - man
-
the moose is a sweet plane! Of course planes always fly better on cold
days, and sea level helps too!
Any one who is getting a little bogged down building, let this be an
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Ryan - SR157
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It was the upper air work that was most exciting. 30 Degree banked
climbing stalls with 30" and 2400 rpm, both left and right - stall was
41-43 knots with 3400 lbs, cg was about 19". Plus we did 60 Degree bank
turns - something I have avoided since installing the floats.
This is with VG's and drooping wing tips and 28 Degrees up elevator.
The instructor that was with me was a retired Northwest Air pilot with
lots of float time. I measured the flaps to have 38 degrees droop and
ailerons droop 17 degrees at full deployment.
When I do a short landing I set up at 15-16" and 2400 rpm, at 80 knots 1
notch, under 70 knots 2 notches, and under 60 knots I go to full flaps,
do the final low approach at 55 knots and pull it back to 50 Knots down
low. With a little head wind it is stopped in less than 1000' with no
braking. Before the wing tips and VG's I could turn off at the 2000'
taxi way, but not with a lot of room to spare. We have a city airport
near hear with 2200' - It used to be tight without the VG's and tips.
Have you measured your flap deployment? Do you have the VG's on?
Ryan
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Ted Waltman
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 3:03 PM
To: Murphy List
Subject: RE: How to fly a Moose
Ryan,
I'd sure be interested in a lot of details regarding your
flight...airspeeds, power settings, tips, tricks....
I played around with various power settings for approach with full flaps
the other day. Seems that with prop full "in" (flat pitch of course),
full flaps and 12" at 70k indicated I'm dropping about 150'/min; At 65k
about 250'/min. Seems to want to stall, or at least get really mushy,
at slightly less than 60k indicated.
My goal is to consistently land in less than 1,000'. Keeping it nailed
at 70k on final, I was still using probably 1,400 feet on grass/dirt. I
was varying the power level on this approach, so I can't say I had the
same attitude/ground speed as in the air.
Thoughts?
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com] On Behalf Of
Ryan Mowat
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 10:16 PM
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: How to fly a Moose
After flying the Moose 150 hours I thought I could demonstrate a stall
and
steep turns fairly reasonably. Today I was schooled on how to really
fly a
Moose. A retired airline pilot and instructor gave me a real demo - man
-
the moose is a sweet plane! Of course planes always fly better on cold
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Any one who is getting a little bogged down building, let this be an
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Ryan - SR157
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