New Builder Rebel 767R

[Bill Londry]

Just thought I would introduce my self to the group. Received my complete
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read the manual. I hope to get started right after Christmas. or as soon as
I decide on a primer.
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[N.Smith]

Hi Bill

Welcome to the group


Happy Christmas

Nigel
Elite 745
Derby
England

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Just thought I would introduce my self to the group. Received my complete
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read the manual. I hope to get started right after Christmas. or as soon as
I decide on a primer.
Bill Londry 767R




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[Angus McKenzie]

Hello Bill
Welcome.........Where are you located?.........Angus


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Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 12:15 PM
Subject: New Builder Rebel 767R

Just thought I would introduce my self to the group. Received my complete
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read the manual. I hope to get started right after Christmas. or as soon

as

I decide on a primer.
Bill Londry 767R




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[Bill Londry]

Hello Angus,
I am in Red Lake Ontario. 40c last night with a high of -25c today so I am
doing inventory and trying to stay warm in the garage.
Bill

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From: Angus McKenzie
Date: 12/23/04 11:47:20
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: New Builder Rebel 767R

Hello Bill
Welcome.........Where are you located?.........Angus


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Londry" <brlondry@goredlake.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 12:15 PM
Subject: New Builder Rebel 767R

Just thought I would introduce my self to the group. Received my complete

kit a couple of weeks ago. Busy doing inventory right now and starting t

o

read the manual. I hope to get started right after Christmas. or as soon

as

I decide on a primer.
Bill Londry 767R




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[Rick Harper]

G'day from "Down Under" Bill !

The Rebel is a GREAT plane .... try to get a few rides in one from
time to time while you are building - it'll keep your enthusiasm (and
work progress) UP !

( "down under is also called "OZ" by the way

Rick & Wendy Harper
541R

PS - 541R just clocked up 300 hrs total last week - and going
fabulously !

PPS and a MERRY CHRISSY to ALL !
( Santa is going to lose heaps of weight when he gets down here ....
it's "hotter 'n' hell" !
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Londry" <brlondry@goredlake.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 12:15 PM
Subject: New Builder Rebel 767R

Just thought I would introduce my self to the group. Received my

complete

kit a couple of weeks ago. Busy doing inventory right now and

starting to

read the manual. I hope to get started right after Christmas. or as

soon
as I decide on a primer.

Bill Londry 767R




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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

Welcome aboard Bill !!

Red Lake...hmmmm..you hear that Walter/Bruce/Al...a place to stop on your
way here in 2005 !!!

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Londry" <brlondry@goredlake.com>
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Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: New Builder Rebel 767R

Hello Angus,
I am in Red Lake Ontario. 40c last night with a high of -25c today so I am
doing inventory and trying to stay warm in the garage.
Bill

-------Original Message-------

From: Angus McKenzie
Date: 12/23/04 11:47:20
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: New Builder Rebel 767R

Hello Bill
Welcome.........Where are you located?.........Angus


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Londry" <brlondry@goredlake.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 12:15 PM
Subject: New Builder Rebel 767R

Just thought I would introduce my self to the group. Received my

complete

kit a couple of weeks ago. Busy doing inventory right now and starting

t

o

read the manual. I hope to get started right after Christmas. or as soon

as

I decide on a primer.
Bill Londry 767R




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[Murray & Carol Cherkas]

Hello Bill

Welcome,as you know, we all try to help each other navigate our way through
the tials and tribulations of building and the thereafter. We'll make sure
you enjoy the journey and like BOB says"It's worth it". You'll know this the
first time you fire wall it heading down the long road to pure enjoyment(
other wise called a runway) and yes believe it or not it takes off.Man, this
is it and you'll know the feeling when you get there.I'll see you smilin
from Calgary.

GOOD LUCK and good to have you with us.

Murray

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Sent: December 23, 2004 10:15 AM
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Subject: New Builder Rebel 767R


Just thought I would introduce my self to the group. Received my complete
kit a couple of weeks ago. Busy doing inventory right now and starting to
read the manual. I hope to get started right after Christmas. or as soon as
I decide on a primer.
Bill Londry 767R




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[Bob Patterson]

Hi Bill !

Welcome to the list ! Glad your kit arrived OK !!

My 2 cents - go with the Polyfiber Epoxy primer that Murphy originally
advised ! It's a bit pricey, but you get a good bond that will last the life
of the Rebel - and it's easy to work with. You only need to do the joints &
rivets..... brush it on before joining, and assemble while wet. Dip the
rivets before inserting, and you'll have lots of corrosion protection.

The epoxy fills the gaps in the joints, preventing moisture entering,
and glues the joints together, adding strength. It can be bought in Toronto,
or from Murphy, or Aircraft Spruce, in the US .... lots of sources !

Don't worry about the large surfaces - the 6061 is MUCH more corrosion
resistant than 2024 ! You can always spray in Northern Shield later, as a
fog, if you want permanent protection for the large surfaces.

......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Thursday 23 December 2004 12:15 pm, Bill Londry wrote:

Just thought I would introduce my self to the group. Received my complete
kit a couple of weeks ago. Busy doing inventory right now and starting to
read the manual. I hope to get started right after Christmas. or as soon as
I decide on a primer.
Bill Londry 767R




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[Bill Londry]

Hi Bob,
Good to hear from you. I received my kit all in one piece but am missing a
few parts. Could you please give me a complete list of extra parts you
ordered for me re the Ontario mods? The list below is what I think we needed
so if you could check it out and let me know it would be much appreciated. I
received some of them but not all.

- kit/skylight (what should be in the kit?)
- St-28 (Fin Stab Front Spar) 2 required on reg. kit. I received 4. Do I
need 2 more?
- Float Attach Kit ( what is in this kit?)
- Fus-30 ( tail skin wrap .032 ) I received 1. Do I need 2?
- Did we order heavier box tubing for the door frame?

By the way, I went with the EP420 & Ep 430 as you recomended. I was able to
pick it up at Goulet Aircraft Supplies in Winnipeg. I am just waiting for an
air drill to come in so I can get started.
I was also talking to Steve Couper at MAM re missing parts but wanted to
check with you first as to exactly what I needed.

Bill Londry 767R


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From: Bob Patterson
Date: 12/23/04 23:59:27
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: New Builder Rebel 767R

Hi Bill !

Welcome to the list ! Glad your kit arrived OK !!

My 2 cents - go with the Polyfiber Epoxy primer that Murphy originally
advised ! It's a bit pricey, but you get a good bond that will last the
life
of the Rebel - and it's easy to work with. You only need to do the joints
&
rivets..... brush it on before joining, and assemble while wet. Dip the

rivets before inserting, and you'll have lots of corrosion protection.

The epoxy fills the gaps in the joints, preventing moisture entering,
and glues the joints together, adding strength. It can be bought in
Toronto,
or from Murphy, or Aircraft Spruce, in the US .... lots of sources !

Don't worry about the large surfaces - the 6061 is MUCH more corrosion
resistant than 2024 ! You can always spray in Northern Shield later, as
a
fog, if you want permanent protection for the large surfaces.

......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Thursday 23 December 2004 12:15 pm, Bill Londry wrote:

Just thought I would introduce my self to the group. Received my complete

kit a couple of weeks ago. Busy doing inventory right now and starting t

o

read the manual. I hope to get started right after Christmas. or as soon

as

I decide on a primer.
Bill Londry 767R




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[Wayne G. O'Shea]

No idea what you/Bob ordered....but note that you need FOUR ST-28's to build
per the manual (not 2). One for each tailfeather section (left stab/right
stab/fin) and the spare one is for the seat belt attach bulkhead in the
center of the cabin floor. If you want to do the door sills with it you will
need THREE more. One full length for each horizontal section and the third
to be cut and used for each sloped section of the door sill.

Easiest way to do the FUS-30 doubler is with a second one..but can be done
with sheet stock as well with a bit more work.

Float attach kit is two extra round corner bulkheads, two Fus-42-1's and
some RV1410 and RV1619 rivets.

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Londry" <brlondry@goredlake.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: New Builder Rebel 767R

Hi Bob,
Good to hear from you. I received my kit all in one piece but am missing a
few parts. Could you please give me a complete list of extra parts you
ordered for me re the Ontario mods? The list below is what I think we

needed

so if you could check it out and let me know it would be much appreciated.

I

received some of them but not all.

- kit/skylight (what should be in the kit?)
- St-28 (Fin Stab Front Spar) 2 required on reg. kit. I received 4. Do

I

need 2 more?
- Float Attach Kit ( what is in this kit?)
- Fus-30 ( tail skin wrap .032 ) I received 1. Do I need 2?
- Did we order heavier box tubing for the door frame?

By the way, I went with the EP420 & Ep 430 as you recomended. I was able

to

pick it up at Goulet Aircraft Supplies in Winnipeg. I am just waiting for

an

air drill to come in so I can get started.
I was also talking to Steve Couper at MAM re missing parts but wanted to
check with you first as to exactly what I needed.

Bill Londry 767R


-------Original Message-------

From: Bob Patterson
Date: 12/23/04 23:59:27
To: rebel-builders@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: New Builder Rebel 767R

Hi Bill !

Welcome to the list ! Glad your kit arrived OK !!

My 2 cents - go with the Polyfiber Epoxy primer that Murphy originally
advised ! It's a bit pricey, but you get a good bond that will last the
life
of the Rebel - and it's easy to work with. You only need to do the joints
&
rivets..... brush it on before joining, and assemble while wet. Dip the

rivets before inserting, and you'll have lots of corrosion protection.

The epoxy fills the gaps in the joints, preventing moisture entering,
and glues the joints together, adding strength. It can be bought in
Toronto,
or from Murphy, or Aircraft Spruce, in the US .... lots of sources !

Don't worry about the large surfaces - the 6061 is MUCH more corrosion
resistant than 2024 ! You can always spray in Northern Shield later, as
a
fog, if you want permanent protection for the large surfaces.

......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Thursday 23 December 2004 12:15 pm, Bill Londry wrote:

Just thought I would introduce my self to the group. Received my

complete

kit a couple of weeks ago. Busy doing inventory right now and starting

t

o

read the manual. I hope to get started right after Christmas. or as soon

as

I decide on a primer.
Bill Londry 767R




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[Bob Patterson]

Hi Bill !

Sorry for the delay - been travelling, visiting, eating, & gaining weight !!

Hope you still have a copy of the order I faxed you. If not, I can send it
again ...

In addition to the kit, with the fiberglass tail & wing tips deleted, (since
you'll be using Dave Fife's improved tips), I ordered:

1 pair of skylight doublers (joggled ring pieces to go inside, around the
skylight opening - support the Lexan)

4 EXTRA pieces of ST-28 - these are 'Ontario Mod' parts, to replace
the bottom & angle door frames - there should be <3> pieces in the
standard kit, as well, for the tail (The left-over ST-30's can go under the
baggage floor, and inside the re-made (to .032) ,or doubled, FUS-26's,
and to stiffen other areas.

They may also be supplying extra ST-28 for the firewall brace between the
top engine mounts - part of the factory "Float-Fix Mods" .... in that case,
there are 4 on the standard kit, and you should get the 4 EXTRA ones we
ordered.

Re-making the 2 FUS-26's in .032 is another "Ontario Mod" - you might want
to add a 4 x 4 sheet of .032 6061 aluminum to your order if you have no handy
source - it always comes in handy for doublers ...

Also handy for stiffening some fuse sections is 1 extra wing stringer -
- cut into 6 ft. lengths to reduce shipping costs.

1 EXTRA FUS-30 - another 'Ontario Mod' part - to double the tail wrap
section - trim a bit at front (see photo in archives) - should extend far
enough forward to pick up a few rivets in the triangular side piece.
This is <in addition> to the one supplied with the kit, as it goes over it
as a doubler, to stiffen this area.

1 Float attach fittings kit - 2 bulkheads, 2 tabs, and some rivets - all
stock stuff

If you received any FUS-10 corner wraps, you should ask to exchange them
for FUS-70's (same shape, but thicker - and stronger.)

Strange - I <ORDERED> you a chemical kit, including EP420/430, Tube Seal,
and Metal-Sol ---- did they say why they weren't shipping it ?? You will
need the Tube Seal for inside the tail spar tubes, but you could use plain
acetone instead of the Metal-Sol as a general cleaner/degreaser ....

You can drop me email directly at: beep@sympatico.ca so we don't
clutter up the email list ....

Let me know if there's more I can do !

.......bobp

-------------------------------orig.-------------------------
On Tuesday 28 December 2004 03:17 pm, Bill Londry wrote:

Hi Bob,
Good to hear from you. I received my kit all in one piece but am missing a
few parts. Could you please give me a complete list of extra parts you
ordered for me re the Ontario mods? The list below is what I think we
needed so if you could check it out and let me know it would be much
appreciated. I received some of them but not all.

- kit/skylight (what should be in the kit?)
- St-28 (Fin Stab Front Spar) 2 required on reg. kit. I received 4. Do I
need 2 more?
- Float Attach Kit ( what is in this kit?)
- Fus-30 ( tail skin wrap .032 ) I received 1. Do I need 2?
- Did we order heavier box tubing for the door frame?

By the way, I went with the EP420 & Ep 430 as you recomended. I was able to
pick it up at Goulet Aircraft Supplies in Winnipeg. I am just waiting for
an air drill to come in so I can get started.
I was also talking to Steve Couper at MAM re missing parts but wanted to
check with you first as to exactly what I needed.

Bill Londry 767R

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