Do you want this big green box to go away? Well here's how...

Click here for full update

Wildcat! photo archives restored.

Click here for full update

Donors can now disable ads.

Click here for instructions

Add yourself to the user map.

Click here for instructions

Moose, Safety For Outboard End Bolt Aileron Torque Tube

Converted from Wildcat! database. (read only)
Locked
Don Boardman

Moose, Safety For Outboard End Bolt Aileron Torque Tube

Post by Don Boardman » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:46 am

Hi Guys,

FIRST FOR MIKE:
Mike, I just posted two pictures to Maddog (Safety For Outboard End of
Aileron Torque Tube) the first was by mistake and is a large file. When you
get a minute you can delete it and keep the sized file with the .jpg
designation. Thanks.

Randy and I were not comfortable without a safety on the bolt at the
outboard end of the aileron torque tube. I emailed MAM and asked about a
safety for the bolt and the need for a CC-54 (tube ring) on the inboard end
of the torque tube.

Robin's response:
The CC-54 is not needed on either end of the torque tube.
It should be removed from the manual.
The AN4-13A bolt in the end of the torque tube is held tight by the
anchor nut and possibly lock tite.
It should probably have a drilled head and safety wired to a
.125 thick X 1/2" or 3/4" wide aluminum bar riveted longitudinally to
the torque tube and protruding past the end of the torque tube.
Because of the CC-54 already installed on the end of our tube, a bar with a
jog in it would be required etc. While thinking of how to fabricate such a
bar the idea of using an Adel Clamp came to mind. And that is what I used. I
just happen to have some #31's (31/16) on hand, a perfect tight fit for the
two inch torque tube. A small tab bolted on with the Adel Clamp and I was in
business. Oh, and a little one handed dexterity and a few #^%$*%^)^&_
working through the inspection hole. We used a AN4H-14A end bolt. The
picture posted to maddog shows all.

We also added a delrin washer/spacer we fabricated to take up the end play
created by the AIL-26 bushing and an installation per the manual. It slides
over the bushing. An added benefit of having the spacer is that a normal
bolt head will clear the support bracket. As you will see in the picture we
also used a castle nut and cotter pin on the rod end bolt. I know a nylock
nut is fine. We just like that irrational "feel good" thing when it comes to
critical nuts.

Another dragon slayed ,
Don B.





-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Wayne G. O'Shea

Moose, Safety For Outboard End Bolt Aileron Torque Tube

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:46 am

Gee...if there's going to be a mad rush for #31 clamps I better have a look
thru my hundreds of tote bins of clamps to see if I have this size.May even
have them with a 90* mounting tab on them and this would give the required
tab all in one piece. Would need left and rights I guess...but I may just
have. Will have to poke thru things tomorrow afternoon.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Boardman" <dboardm3@twcny.rr.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:14 PM
Subject: Moose, Safety For Outboard End Bolt Aileron Torque Tube

Hi Guys,

FIRST FOR MIKE:
Mike, I just posted two pictures to Maddog (Safety For Outboard End of
Aileron Torque Tube) the first was by mistake and is a large file. When
you
get a minute you can delete it and keep the sized file with the .jpg
designation. Thanks.

Randy and I were not comfortable without a safety on the bolt at the
outboard end of the aileron torque tube. I emailed MAM and asked about a
safety for the bolt and the need for a CC-54 (tube ring) on the inboard
end
of the torque tube.

Robin's response:
The CC-54 is not needed on either end of the torque tube.
It should be removed from the manual.
The AN4-13A bolt in the end of the torque tube is held tight by the
anchor nut and possibly lock tite.
It should probably have a drilled head and safety wired to a
.125 thick X 1/2" or 3/4" wide aluminum bar riveted longitudinally to
the torque tube and protruding past the end of the torque tube.
Because of the CC-54 already installed on the end of our tube, a bar with
a
jog in it would be required etc. While thinking of how to fabricate such a
bar the idea of using an Adel Clamp came to mind. And that is what I used.
I
just happen to have some #31's (31/16) on hand, a perfect tight fit for
the
two inch torque tube. A small tab bolted on with the Adel Clamp and I was
in
business. Oh, and a little one handed dexterity and a few #^%$*%^)^&_
working through the inspection hole. We used a AN4H-14A end bolt. The
picture posted to maddog shows all.

We also added a delrin washer/spacer we fabricated to take up the end play
created by the AIL-26 bushing and an installation per the manual. It
slides
over the bushing. An added benefit of having the spacer is that a normal
bolt head will clear the support bracket. As you will see in the picture
we
also used a castle nut and cotter pin on the rod end bolt. I know a nylock
nut is fine. We just like that irrational "feel good" thing when it comes
to
critical nuts.

Another dragon slayed ,
Don B.





-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://www.dcsol.com/login?mode=HTML
username "rebel" password "builder"
Subscription services located at:
https://www.dcsol.com/public/code/html-subscribe.htm
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------





-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Don Boardman

Moose, Safety For Outboard End Bolt Aileron Torque Tube

Post by Don Boardman » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:46 am

Subject: Re: Moose, Safety For Outboard End Bolt Aileron Torque Tube

Gee...if there's going to be a mad rush for #31 clamps I better have a look
thru my hundreds of tote bins of clamps to see if I have this size.

Wayne
Wayne if you have them you could try a #32 on the torque tube. Might work
out fine the #31 was a tight fit.

Don B.




-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Wayne G. O'Shea

Moose, Safety For Outboard End Bolt Aileron Torque Tube

Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:46 am

I'm pretty much positive that I have 100's of #32's and will try to see if I
can make one come loose on the tube tomorrow... if I dont' have the #31's.
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Boardman" <dboardm3@twcny.rr.com>
To: <rebel-builders@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: Moose, Safety For Outboard End Bolt Aileron Torque Tube

Subject: Re: Moose, Safety For Outboard End Bolt Aileron Torque Tube

Gee...if there's going to be a mad rush for #31 clamps I better have a
look
thru my hundreds of tote bins of clamps to see if I have this size.

Wayne
Wayne if you have them you could try a #32 on the torque tube. Might work
out fine the #31 was a tight fit.

Don B.




-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://www.dcsol.com/login?mode=HTML
username "rebel" password "builder"
Subscription services located at:
https://www.dcsol.com/public/code/html-subscribe.htm
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------





-----------------------------------------------------------------
List archives located at: https://mail.dcsol.com/login
username "rebel" password "builder"
Unsubscribe: rebel-builders-unsubscribe@dcsol.com
List administrator: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------


Locked