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Bill Delcambre

First flight 1800 amphib

Post by Bill Delcambre » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:00 am

Don't ask me how I know about that phenomenon.

I did, although, but the salvage from the insurance company.....


Bill


----- Original Message -----
From: <Legeorgen@aol.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: First flight 1800 amphib

Thanks Bill,

I never thought about not being able to turn when one wheel is lifted
because
there has to be brakes to turn.

Bruce



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Legeorgen

First flight 1800 amphib

Post by Legeorgen » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:04 am

OK,Bill...now I have to ask you how you know about the phenomenon? Don't be
shy, I'm sure we've all been there.

Bruce



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Walter Klatt

First flight 1800 amphib

Post by Walter Klatt » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:09 am

I ran mine through the front struts. It was a tight fit to get
them all past the attach fittings. I then ran the lines through
the floor just ahead of the bottom carry-through. On the bottom I
had them come out at the back of the attach fitting. If I did it
over I would have them come through the front and change the
location of the T on the inside float line. That would involve a
less tight bend than I have now to go into the floats. Also, when
you drill the strut to attach your ladder, be careful not to
drill your hoses. I forgot when I did mine, and punctured one.
Needless to say, there were a few expletives that could be heard
a couple hangars away when I saw that red fluid running down the
strut.

Walter
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of Bob
Fisher
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 7:06 PM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: First flight 1800 amphib


hi guys question how many of you with amphibs
have run your
hydraulic lines inside the front struts ? if so,
where and how did they
exit and go through the lower skin

if not how did they get "flared "into the outside
of the strut?

thanks much bob fisher rebel 342
----- Original Message -----
From: "WALTER KLATT" <walter.klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: First flight 1800 amphib

Before your first flight, you will want to get used
to taxiing and how
your brakes work. They need to be broken in, and may
not provide much
braking power initially. Also, be sure that you have
enough tension with the
washers on your nose wheels or they may shimmy when
landing. That happened
to me. It's going to feel like you are in the cockpit
of an airliner
initially, as you look at down at the ground and all
those little Cessnas
parked.
On take-off, hold the stick back all the way
initially, and be ready to
ease off as the nose starts to lift off. Once you are
experienced you can do
it later on the roll, but you will mis-time it, if you
try that on your
first one, and it will pop up very quickly and high if
you do it late in the
roll.
Once in the air, it will feel like a regular Rebel,
albeit not quite as
fast and crisp. For your first landings, I would go to
a paved runway of at
least 2000 feet and be very careful on your first
approach. Keep your speed
up and remember to start your round-out earlier and
more gradual since you
are a few feet higher off the ground now. Keep that
RPM above 1500 the first
time. And resist that urge, to keep pulling back on
your stick, to get that
tail wheel down, or you will scraping the back of your
floats on the
pavement. On amphibs, you fly it on, not stall it as
in a 3 pointer.
Essentially, your ground landing is exactly the same
as on water.
On the first touch and go, as soon as the mains
touch, I would give it,
and get out of there. Or you might not even touch the
first time which is
OK. Do that a couple of times, and when it feels like
you are under control,
try holding it there after the mains touch, and let
the nose wheels come
down, and then go around again. After about 5 of
these, you should get the
hang of it. When you do land it, watch for that front
wheel shimmy.
After that you should be laughing, as the Rebel on
amphibs is much easier
to land in gusts and strong cross-winds than on wheels.
Walter

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Delcambre <bdelcambre@cox-internet.com>
Date: Friday, February 27, 2004 8:52 am
Subject: Re: First flight 1800 amphib
Yeah, I've got a suggestion; Try to stay current
in aircraft with
conventional gear, after you start flying the
amphib. It's so
easy to land
on those 4 wheels that you'll quickly get lulled
into feeling
invincible.You're about to experience the easiest
plane to land
that you've ever flown!
If, however, you get into strong, gusty crosswinds, be very
careful. If the
upwind wing lifts, while you're on the ground,
you're a passenger,
becausesteering is strictly differential brakes.
Just being
keenly aware of this
phenomenon should keep you out of trouble.

Enjoy!

Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: <Legeorgen@aol.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: First flight 1800 amphib

Unfortunately the
muddy from winter
thaw and
rains I
so I can test
fly it :(
floats and have
never landed
an
apprehension about
it. Any
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Bob Fisher

First flight 1800 amphib

Post by Bob Fisher » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:09 am

hi guys question how many of you with amphibs have run your
hydraulic lines inside the front struts ? if so, where and how did they
exit and go through the lower skin

if not how did they get "flared "into the outside of the strut?

thanks much bob fisher rebel 342
----- Original Message -----
From: "WALTER KLATT" <walter.klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: First flight 1800 amphib

Before your first flight, you will want to get used to taxiing and how
your brakes work. They need to be broken in, and may not provide much
braking power initially. Also, be sure that you have enough tension with the
washers on your nose wheels or they may shimmy when landing. That happened
to me. It's going to feel like you are in the cockpit of an airliner
initially, as you look at down at the ground and all those little Cessnas
parked.
On take-off, hold the stick back all the way initially, and be ready to
ease off as the nose starts to lift off. Once you are experienced you can do
it later on the roll, but you will mis-time it, if you try that on your
first one, and it will pop up very quickly and high if you do it late in the
roll.
Once in the air, it will feel like a regular Rebel, albeit not quite as
fast and crisp. For your first landings, I would go to a paved runway of at
least 2000 feet and be very careful on your first approach. Keep your speed
up and remember to start your round-out earlier and more gradual since you
are a few feet higher off the ground now. Keep that RPM above 1500 the first
time. And resist that urge, to keep pulling back on your stick, to get that
tail wheel down, or you will scraping the back of your floats on the
pavement. On amphibs, you fly it on, not stall it as in a 3 pointer.
Essentially, your ground landing is exactly the same as on water.
On the first touch and go, as soon as the mains touch, I would give it,
and get out of there. Or you might not even touch the first time which is
OK. Do that a couple of times, and when it feels like you are under control,
try holding it there after the mains touch, and let the nose wheels come
down, and then go around again. After about 5 of these, you should get the
hang of it. When you do land it, watch for that front wheel shimmy.
After that you should be laughing, as the Rebel on amphibs is much easier
to land in gusts and strong cross-winds than on wheels.
Walter

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Delcambre <bdelcambre@cox-internet.com>
Date: Friday, February 27, 2004 8:52 am
Subject: Re: First flight 1800 amphib
Yeah, I've got a suggestion; Try to stay current in aircraft with
conventional gear, after you start flying the amphib. It's so
easy to land
on those 4 wheels that you'll quickly get lulled into feeling
invincible.You're about to experience the easiest plane to land
that you've ever flown!
If, however, you get into strong, gusty crosswinds, be very
careful. If the
upwind wing lifts, while you're on the ground, you're a passenger,
becausesteering is strictly differential brakes. Just being
keenly aware of this
phenomenon should keep you out of trouble.

Enjoy!

Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: <Legeorgen@aol.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: First flight 1800 amphib

# 357R is all ready for it's first flight as an amphib.
Unfortunately the
private dirt strip where she is hangered is so muddy from winter
thaw and
rains I
think it may be a few weeks before things dry up so I can test
fly it :(
It's like Christmas Eve when you are young. Cant wait!

I received my submarine license on straight floats and have
never landed
an
amphib with the wheels. I'm feeling a little apprehension about
it. Any
suggestions?

Bruce



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