I got a quote for coverage on my Rebel amphib from Falcon. The policy was
quoted through US Insurance Specialties for 4,550.00 US for Hull in-flight
coverage on amphibs with from May to October and then back to wheels again. Coverage
was for 60,000.00 US, which is really to low, but I was wanting to know if
this sounds about what others are paying.
I have only 10 hours of dual with no amphib time but I do have over 200 hours
with retractable gear time.
Bruce
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Walter Klatt
Amphib insurance
Don't how Canada compares to the US with insurance costs, but can
tell you that mine is considerably less, at least it was last
year. I will be talking to my insurance guy again in a few months
so will find out again then. I also have several hundred hours
amphib time, so that might help, too.
We just had another fatal amphib accident here last weekend, so
that won't help our costs. I returned from a flight, and found
out that I had just flown over the area pretty well the exact
time that the accident happened. I didn't see anything at the
time, but wasn't looking either.
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tell you that mine is considerably less, at least it was last
year. I will be talking to my insurance guy again in a few months
so will find out again then. I also have several hundred hours
amphib time, so that might help, too.
We just had another fatal amphib accident here last weekend, so
that won't help our costs. I returned from a flight, and found
out that I had just flown over the area pretty well the exact
time that the accident happened. I didn't see anything at the
time, but wasn't looking either.
Walter
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Legeorgen@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 10:40 PM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Amphib insurance
I got a quote for coverage on my Rebel amphib from
Falcon. The policy was
quoted through US Insurance Specialties for 4,550.00
US for Hull in-flight
coverage on amphibs with from May to October and then
back to wheels again. Coverage
was for 60,000.00 US, which is really to low, but I
was wanting to know if
this sounds about what others are paying.
I have only 10 hours of dual with no amphib time but I
do have over 200 hours
with retractable gear time.
Bruce
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Bill Delcambre
Amphib insurance
Although I enjoyed my amphib time immensely, this is the reason that my
Moose will stay on tires. The Husky that I'm flying now, was on Wipline
2100 amphibs for several years. The owner got so disgusted with the price
of insurance, he sold the floats. Glad he did. I wouldn't have bought it
on floats, because of the insurance.
Be real careful about low coverage. Not sure what the percentage figure is
, (something like 50 or 60%) but if estimated damage to the craft reaches
this point, they total it and give you a check for the insured amount (less
deductible) and sell it for salvage. It doesn't take a hellova lot of
damage to total it, if your insured value is low. You can end up bidding
against a savvy salvage operator for your plane. I've heard horror stories
about being under insured.
Bill
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Subject: Re: Amphib insurance
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Moose will stay on tires. The Husky that I'm flying now, was on Wipline
2100 amphibs for several years. The owner got so disgusted with the price
of insurance, he sold the floats. Glad he did. I wouldn't have bought it
on floats, because of the insurance.
Be real careful about low coverage. Not sure what the percentage figure is
, (something like 50 or 60%) but if estimated damage to the craft reaches
this point, they total it and give you a check for the insured amount (less
deductible) and sell it for salvage. It doesn't take a hellova lot of
damage to total it, if your insured value is low. You can end up bidding
against a savvy salvage operator for your plane. I've heard horror stories
about being under insured.
Bill
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To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: Amphib insurance
again. CoverageI got a quote for coverage on my Rebel amphib from Falcon. The policy was
quoted through US Insurance Specialties for 4,550.00 US for Hull in-flight
coverage on amphibs with from May to October and then back to wheels
hourswas for 60,000.00 US, which is really to low, but I was wanting to know if
this sounds about what others are paying.
I have only 10 hours of dual with no amphib time but I do have over 200
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Wayne G. O'Shea
Amphib insurance
Here's a quick "obituary" for Toni that Rob Prior wrote and the CADORs
report that goes with the accident, as I'm sure there are some others here
that knew him (or of him).
Regards, Wayne
.................................................
Toni Onley 1929 - 2004
It is with great sadness that I report the passing of one of BC's
aviation icons, Toni Onley.
Toni perished in an afternoon crash on Sunday February 29th as he was
practising touch-and-go landings on the Fraser River in his Lake
Buccaneer. The exact cause of the crash is not known at this time.
Toni was born on the Isle if Man in the UK, came to Canada in 1948, and
settled for a time in Ontario. He moved to Penticton in 1955, and later
to the lower mainland.
Toni had been an icon of the Vancouver Lower Mainland flying scene since
obtaining his license in the 1960's, and quickly became known as the
"flying artist" for his habit of flying in to a remote location and
setting up his easel. He owned three airplanes in his lifetime, a
float-equipped Fleet 80 Canuck, a Polish ski-equipped Wilga 80, and
finally the Lake LA4 Buccaneer amphibian.
Toni was a close friend to many in the aviation and artistic communities
in B.C. and will be greatly missed.
Toni is survived by his daughter Lynn, his son James and a grandson.
---
Rob Prior
Regional Director, Coastal BC, RAAC
Director, RAA Chapter 85, Delta, BC
.....................................................
Cadors Number: 2004P0258 Reporting Region: Pacific
Occurrence InformationOccurrence Type: Accident Occurrence Date: 2004/02/29
Occurrence Time: 2130 Z Day Or Night: day-time
Fatalities: 1 Injuries:
Canadian Aerodrome ID: Aerodrome Name:
Occurrence Location: Fraser River (287th st and Lougheed Hwy)
Province: British Columbia
Country: CANADA World Area: North America
Reported By: NAV CANADA AOR Number: 35739
TSB Class Of Investigation: TSB Occurrence No.:
Event InformationCollision with terrain
Missing aircraft
Aircraft InformationCDN Registration: C-GHJE Foreign Registration:
Flight #:
Aircraft Category: Aeroplane Country of Registration: CANADA
Make: LAKE Model: LA 4 200
Year Built: 1974 Amateur Built: No
Engine Make: AVCO LYCOMING Engine Model: IO-360-A1B
Engine Type: Reciprocating Gear Type:
Phase of Flight: Landing Damage: Destroyed
Owner: TONI ONLEY LTD Operator:
Operator Type: Private
Detail InformationUser Name: Pike, Lisa
Date: 2004/03/01
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Subject: RE: Amphib insurance
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report that goes with the accident, as I'm sure there are some others here
that knew him (or of him).
Regards, Wayne
.................................................
Toni Onley 1929 - 2004
It is with great sadness that I report the passing of one of BC's
aviation icons, Toni Onley.
Toni perished in an afternoon crash on Sunday February 29th as he was
practising touch-and-go landings on the Fraser River in his Lake
Buccaneer. The exact cause of the crash is not known at this time.
Toni was born on the Isle if Man in the UK, came to Canada in 1948, and
settled for a time in Ontario. He moved to Penticton in 1955, and later
to the lower mainland.
Toni had been an icon of the Vancouver Lower Mainland flying scene since
obtaining his license in the 1960's, and quickly became known as the
"flying artist" for his habit of flying in to a remote location and
setting up his easel. He owned three airplanes in his lifetime, a
float-equipped Fleet 80 Canuck, a Polish ski-equipped Wilga 80, and
finally the Lake LA4 Buccaneer amphibian.
Toni was a close friend to many in the aviation and artistic communities
in B.C. and will be greatly missed.
Toni is survived by his daughter Lynn, his son James and a grandson.
---
Rob Prior
Regional Director, Coastal BC, RAAC
Director, RAA Chapter 85, Delta, BC
.....................................................
Cadors Number: 2004P0258 Reporting Region: Pacific
Occurrence InformationOccurrence Type: Accident Occurrence Date: 2004/02/29
Occurrence Time: 2130 Z Day Or Night: day-time
Fatalities: 1 Injuries:
Canadian Aerodrome ID: Aerodrome Name:
Occurrence Location: Fraser River (287th st and Lougheed Hwy)
Province: British Columbia
Country: CANADA World Area: North America
Reported By: NAV CANADA AOR Number: 35739
TSB Class Of Investigation: TSB Occurrence No.:
Event InformationCollision with terrain
Missing aircraft
Aircraft InformationCDN Registration: C-GHJE Foreign Registration:
Flight #:
Aircraft Category: Aeroplane Country of Registration: CANADA
Make: LAKE Model: LA 4 200
Year Built: 1974 Amateur Built: No
Engine Make: AVCO LYCOMING Engine Model: IO-360-A1B
Engine Type: Reciprocating Gear Type:
Phase of Flight: Landing Damage: Destroyed
Owner: TONI ONLEY LTD Operator:
Operator Type: Private
Detail InformationUser Name: Pike, Lisa
Date: 2004/03/01
----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <walter.klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 9:48 AM
Subject: RE: Amphib insurance
*-------------------------------------------------------------------------*Don't how Canada compares to the US with insurance costs, but can
tell you that mine is considerably less, at least it was last
year. I will be talking to my insurance guy again in a few months
so will find out again then. I also have several hundred hours
amphib time, so that might help, too.
We just had another fatal amphib accident here last weekend, so
that won't help our costs. I returned from a flight, and found
out that I had just flown over the area pretty well the exact
time that the accident happened. I didn't see anything at the
time, but wasn't looking either.
Walter
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Legeorgen@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 10:40 PM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Amphib insurance
I got a quote for coverage on my Rebel amphib from
Falcon. The policy was
quoted through US Insurance Specialties for 4,550.00
US for Hull in-flight
coverage on amphibs with from May to October and then
back to wheels again. Coverage
was for 60,000.00 US, which is really to low, but I
was wanting to know if
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I have only 10 hours of dual with no amphib time but I
do have over 200 hours
with retractable gear time.
Bruce
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