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Flaperon Control Roof Hanger on Rebe/CD pictures l

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Post by rebel » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:54 pm

I'm sure you are right on the torque tube hanger being beat up buy the wind I
could never figure out why MAM never used two nice shaped pieces of roof
channel as they have the die block to mash them out. I think the Elite may be
less prone to damage as the hanger bracket only deals with half the load with
the flaps being seperate. .032 channel goes under the MAM P/N ST-28
On 10/10/2003 9:14 AM, OIFA@IRISHFIELD.ON.CA wrote to MURPHY-REBEL:
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-> Subject: Re: Flaperon Control Roof Hanger on Rebe/CD pictures l
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-> Walter,
->
-> I was staying quiet so you could get other input, as I'm sure others have
-> some better ways. Meant absolutely no insult to Sean, but just couldn't
let
-> "as per the manual" be input on this critical area.
->
-> The other thing that I have to advise people on is that you can't go by the
-> pictures supplied on MAM's CD's.
->
-> USE THEM A REFERENCE AND IF THEY DON'T MATCH THE INSTRUCTIONS IGNORE THEM.
->
-> Especially the float one where the manual tells you one thing and then all
-> the pictures are of Julius's floats going together in his shop, that have
-> VERY few factory supplied parts left in them making the pictures VERY
-> confusing for someone that is just trying to put together what MAM sent
them
-> in the crate.
->
-> Cheers,
-> Wayne
->
-> ----- Original Message -----
-> From: "Walter Klatt" <walter.klatt@shaw.ca>
-> To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
-> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 9:59 AM
-> Subject: RE: Flaperon Control Roof Hanger on Rebel
->
->
-> > Yes, Wayne, I was expecting to hear from you on this
-> > one, because I do remember the past discussions.
-> > However, as mentioned there appears to be a few
-> > different ways to beef up the area. Then what confuses
-> > things further is to find the Elite controls manual on
-> > the website still uses the original Rebel method with
-> > the single channel and roof bracket.
-> >
-> > So, if I'm going to do a fix, I'm just trying to find
-> > out the best recommended method, manuals aside.
-> >
-> > Thanks everyone for their input.
-> >
-> > Walter
-> >
-> > > -----Original Message-----
-> > > From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
-> > > [mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
-> > > Wayne G. O'Shea
-> > > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 6:15 AM
-> > > To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
-> > > Subject: Re: Flaperon Control Roof Hanger on Rebel
-> > >
-> > >
-> > > I've been staying quiet on this thread, as
-> > > we've been here before, but sorry
-> > > Sean the single ST-31 (.020) channel and
-> > > .032 bracket to the roof does not
-> > > "work just fine" for the torque tube hanger
-> > > bracket. You haven't looked too
-> > > hard....... if you haven't seen this area to
-> > > be a problem. I have fixed at
-> > > least 7 (possibly more) of these hanger
-> > > brackets, that buckle from leaving
-> > > aileron/flaperons without gust locks or even
-> > > just having a tail wind rip the
-> > > stick out of our hands.
-> > >
-> > > At minimum this channel needs to be .032 and
-> > > not .020 and it's very easy to
-> > > add a layer of material to it by bending up
-> > > a channel to fit inside the
-> > > existing one if you are already built to
-> > > this stage or flying. Better now
-> > > than when you go to leave a distant flyin
-> > > and find things aren't where they
-> > > used to be on the cabin roof!
-> > >
-> > > Cheers,
-> > > Wayne O'Shea
-> > >
-> > > ----- Original Message -----
-> > > From: <rebel@dcsol.com>
-> > > To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
-> > > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 8:17 AM
-> > > Subject: Re: Flaperon Control Roof Hanger on Rebel
-> > >
-> > >
-> > > > If it helps clear up how to put the hanger
-> > > on the roof don't follow the
-> > > > pictures on the CD that Murphy sends as
-> > > these are pic's from the
-> > > prototype.
-> > > > If anyone has the misfortune of having a
-> > > very old Elite manual it shows
-> > > two
-> > > > for and aft channels made of st-31. the
-> > > new book has the single st31 with
-> > > > angle clips for and aft to tie it to the
-> > > bulheads and a .032 bracket that
-> > > > ties it to the roof and it works just
-> > > fine. The control chapter is on
-> > > > Murphy's web site for down load. Unless
-> > > you have a problem leave it per
-> > > the
-> > > > book I have never seen a problem in this
-> > > area that would require a beef up
-> > > >
-> > > > Sean White
-> > > > Kitplane solutions Inc.
-> > > >
-> > >
-> > >
-> > >
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Post by Wayne G. O'Shea » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:54 pm

Walter,

I was staying quiet so you could get other input, as I'm sure others have
some better ways. Meant absolutely no insult to Sean, but just couldn't let
"as per the manual" be input on this critical area.

The other thing that I have to advise people on is that you can't go by the
pictures supplied on MAM's CD's.

USE THEM A REFERENCE AND IF THEY DON'T MATCH THE INSTRUCTIONS IGNORE THEM.

Especially the float one where the manual tells you one thing and then all
the pictures are of Julius's floats going together in his shop, that have
VERY few factory supplied parts left in them making the pictures VERY
confusing for someone that is just trying to put together what MAM sent them
in the crate.

Cheers,
Wayne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Klatt" <walter.klatt@shaw.ca>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 9:59 AM
Subject: RE: Flaperon Control Roof Hanger on Rebel

Yes, Wayne, I was expecting to hear from you on this
one, because I do remember the past discussions.
However, as mentioned there appears to be a few
different ways to beef up the area. Then what confuses
things further is to find the Elite controls manual on
the website still uses the original Rebel method with
the single channel and roof bracket.

So, if I'm going to do a fix, I'm just trying to find
out the best recommended method, manuals aside.

Thanks everyone for their input.

Walter
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.davis@dcsol.com
[mailto:mike.davis@dcsol.com]On Behalf Of
Wayne G. O'Shea
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 6:15 AM
To: murphy-rebel@dcsol.com
Subject: Re: Flaperon Control Roof Hanger on Rebel


I've been staying quiet on this thread, as
we've been here before, but sorry
Sean the single ST-31 (.020) channel and
.032 bracket to the roof does not
"work just fine" for the torque tube hanger
bracket. You haven't looked too
hard....... if you haven't seen this area to
be a problem. I have fixed at
least 7 (possibly more) of these hanger
brackets, that buckle from leaving
aileron/flaperons without gust locks or even
just having a tail wind rip the
stick out of our hands.

At minimum this channel needs to be .032 and
not .020 and it's very easy to
add a layer of material to it by bending up
a channel to fit inside the
existing one if you are already built to
this stage or flying. Better now
than when you go to leave a distant flyin
and find things aren't where they
used to be on the cabin roof!

Cheers,
Wayne O'Shea

----- Original Message -----
From: <rebel@dcsol.com>
To: <murphy-rebel@dcsol.com>
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: Flaperon Control Roof Hanger on Rebel

If it helps clear up how to put the hanger
on the roof don't follow the
pictures on the CD that Murphy sends as
these are pic's from the
prototype.
If anyone has the misfortune of having a
very old Elite manual it shows
two
for and aft channels made of st-31. the
new book has the single st31 with
angle clips for and aft to tie it to the
bulheads and a .032 bracket that
ties it to the roof and it works just
fine. The control chapter is on
Murphy's web site for down load. Unless
you have a problem leave it per
the
book I have never seen a problem in this
area that would require a beef up
Sean White
Kitplane solutions Inc.


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